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FINALLY!!! Rapists can Procreate in S. Dakota
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Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Killing the child won't solve anything. It won't punish the rapist, nor will it allow you to go back in time to prevent the rape. It won't solve anything positive.


What the hell are you talking about?

It will stop a woman knowing she gave birth to some rapist's offspring. Then the baby will live it's life born out of hate and rape.

What planet are you even living on?

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What the hell are you talking about?

It will stop a woman knowing she gave birth to some rapist's offspring. Then the baby will live it's life born out of hate and rape.

What planet are you even living on?

-AC


I'm sayin' that killing the baby won't solve anything.

There are people alive today who are the product of a rape and lead normal healthy lives. They have families and careers. Its not like being the product of a rape curses you to a terrible life.

I live on Kashyyyk with the Wookies.

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So what? That doesn't mean women have to give birth to rape pregnancy conceptions.

I don't really know how much clearer to lay it out. She was raped, for crying out loud. You say "Oh it's not the baby's fault." Who's fault was it that she GOT raped and GOT pregnant, so that the "baby" exists? Hers or the rapist's? Yes that's right, the rapist's. No woman should be forced to keep her child, especially rape victims.

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So what? That doesn't mean women have to give birth to rape pregnancy conceptions.

I don't really know how much clearer to lay it out. She was raped, for crying out loud. You say "Oh it's not the baby's fault." Who's fault was it that she GOT raped and GOT pregnant, so that the "baby" exists? Hers or the rapist's? Yes that's right, the rapist's. No woman should be forced to keep her child, especially rape victims.

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Says Who? You?

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What part are you referring to? The part that no woman should be forced to keep her child, especially rape victims? Well, yes. Says me, says common sense and compassion, says a lot of things.

You believe females who are victims of rape, should have no choice but to give birth to the "child". There is no possible, credible way you can uphold that debate, as I've proven. Your own rationale even says how illogical and stupid it is (the fault business).

I think you just have a slight misogynistic leaning toward females, to be honest. I gather this from many other posts you've made.

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What part are you referring to? The part that no woman should be forced to keep her child, especially rape victims? Well, yes. Says me, says common sense and compassion, says a lot of things.

You believe females who are victims of rape, should have no choice but to give birth to the "child". There is no possible, credible way you can uphold that debate, as I've proven. Your own rationale even says how illogical and stupid it is (the fault business).

I think you just have a slight misogynistic leaning toward females, to be honest. I gather this from many other posts you've made.

-AC


Well if that's your opinion, that's fine and dandy. I think its a good law and the other 49 states should follow suit.

btw: Why do you care about a law in South Dakota? You're on the the other side of the globe!


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I don't "care", I just think it's disgusting because it is.

Your argument doesn't make sense. You say it's not the baby's fault she got raped, it's not her fault either. So seeing as how the baby came about through something that wasn't her fault, YOUR logic says that she should abort it.

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^ Exactly. B!tches would be lyin' left and right!---"He raped me!" "I was raped!" "I was taked advantage of!" etc......... blah blah blah...........just to get an abortion cuz the ho couldn't keep her legs closed.


left and right? bitches? love the misogyny.
and i think thats the heart of the issue.
if the potential mother wants the fetus aborted because
she has a violent criminal's offspring growing inside her,
shes a b1tch. so then when she is forced to raise this unwanted
kid, and in the case where she is unable emotionally, financially, etc,
and the kid grows up to be another shit stain on society...guess who's
fault it is? yup. that b!tch of a mother. so convenient when you can
always just blame some b!tch, isnt it?

(and YES rape is violent, since its an unwanted physical assault
and penetration. violence doesnt have to involve punching and
kicking. )

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(and YES rape is violent, since its an unwanted physical assault
and penetration. violence doesnt have to involve punching and
kicking. )


But it becomes rape because of the penetrated, not the penetrator.

Rape is mostly violent, It's just too much of a generalisation to say it always is.

Further, even if violence is always involved, the argument always put forth is that it is never sexual, and always about power.

That's an over-generalisation.


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Further, even if violence is always involved, the argument always put forth is that it is never sexual, and always about power.

That's an over-generalisation.


They say that but why do the rapists go to such lengths as to actually cum? if it was about power they would just beat them like a ginger stepchild...

I'll agree its partly power but I think its also a lack of the ability to get any....


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What's stopping them from talking to a girl rather than raping them?


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Sometimes I am sure it's about need...................
Anyone ever have break up sex, when you're both rampant. Imagine if the girl got second thoughts half way through because I've felt I shouldn't be having break up se before so i'm sure girls do. Cause you know you're going to feel twice as shit in the morning when you can hardly look at each other.

People are complex, more complex than psychologists like to admit!!


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What's stopping them from talking to a girl rather than raping them?


A complete lack of an ability to pull....

How many rapists are rich sucessful men with the looks of brad pit??


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A complete lack of an ability to pull....

How many rapists are rich sucessful men with the looks of brad pit??


Some are, like the DJ who used to use GHB and Rohypnol in spain and raped over 200 women, using date rape techniques.


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Dj in spain.... hardly successful..

I would conceder them the exception that proves the rule..
But I'm sure you would agree that your typical rapist isn't a looker or charming...


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Dj in spain.... hardly successful..

I would conceder them the exception that proves the rule..
But I'm sure you would agree that your typical rapist isn't a looker or charming...


I think you'd be suprised the Rapists who jump people are the minority, most rape victims know the rapist and many are ex husbands and boyfriends!


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What's stopping them from talking to a girl rather than raping them?


a lack of respect for women, or even a willingness to view them as human beings. thus the attitude that we should think of them as mere walking birth-machines with no reproductive rights. similar way of thinking, except one passes laws against them while the other just forcibly f***s them.

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