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MightyEInherjar
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Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It should... it helped him dodge a bullet that was inches from his back. It helps him fight in the dark as if he could see normally. I'm sure there are other examples.


To kind of match agility feats again, Nightcrawler has dodged gunfire AFTER the bullets have been fired, and dodged Juggernauts punch when it was about 3 or 4 inches from his face.

(yes yes, I know, Spiderman dodges Juggernaut all the time...I was just pointing out how close his fist was before he even needed to react, just to showcase his speed)

I've got several scans to back it as well, if it's needed.

And yes, even though I'm laying down scans for Kurt, I still think Spiderman wins 6-7/10.


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MightyEinhjerjar, respect, not many posts scans for the opponents while they thinks the other fighter winswink
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Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
To kind of match agility feats again, Nightcrawler has dodged gunfire AFTER the bullets have been fired, and dodged Juggernauts punch when it was about 3 or 4 inches from his face.

(yes yes, I know, Spiderman dodges Juggernaut all the time...I was just pointing out how close his fist was before he even needed to react, just to showcase his speed)

I've got several scans to back it as well, if it's needed.

And yes, even though I'm laying down scans for Kurt, I still think Spiderman wins 6-7/10.

It kind of makes me think all artists portray any character who is to be agile at the same level. Then when they meet it's like "Oh ****... what do we do now?" Then comes a series of coin flips and possible 20 sided dice rolls.


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It kind of makes me think all artists portray any character who is to be agile at the same level. Then when they meet it's like "Oh ****... what do we do now?" Then comes a series of coin flips and possible 20 sided dice rolls.


Sounds about right to me thumb up


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Nope, I dont think that wolverine has a chance to dodge nightcrawler. Its impossible to dodge nightcrawler going all out. Thats why in vs battle people pit him against speedsters because it would be harder for him to hit them. Wolverine would have to take a lot of punishment in order for him to even land a lick on nightcrawler, in which wolverine has the capabilities of taking that punishment. But the same cant be said for spiderman. I dont care what you all say, spiderman cannot detect where nightcrawler is going to be and wolverine has something that spiderman dont and thats adamantium claws. One slice from his claws would change the fight entirely. Nightcrawler has taken punches from superhumans with superhuman strength and teleported back into the fight but the same cant be said for a adamantium claw to the body. Like I said nightcrawler can take a majority to me, if he fighting wolverine but the story isnt the same with spiderman. Nightcrawler has almost everything that spiderman has but strengthn and he has a huge advantage and that is night crawlers teleporting. Spiderman webs would be nothing in this fight and we have already seen what spiderman can do against a nightcrawler thats not even teleporting, a night crawler that knows martial arts and fighting ability is 5 out of 7. Without any swords nightcrawler has laid wolverine on his back without wolverine landing one lick. By the way darthgoober i have never seen any of the people you name say that spiderman is faster than wolverine, I have seen them say that it is debatable.


Basically all I need to say here is that, well, Spider-Man CAN dodge even a blood-lusted Nightcrawler. Having an early-warning detecting ability gives him a massive advantage here.

NC teleports. Spidey already knows where he'll end up. He avoids NC's attack, and counters with a superior one. IF one punch/kick isn't enough, then Spidey will just have to hit him again.


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As Metalmanx said... Spidey punches, Nightcrawler dies


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Originally posted by Metalmanx
Basically all I need to say here is that, well, Spider-Man CAN dodge even a blood-lusted Nightcrawler. Having an early-warning detecting ability gives him a massive advantage here.

NC teleports. Spidey already knows where he'll end up. He avoids NC's attack, and counters with a superior one. IF one punch/kick isn't enough, then Spidey will just have to hit him again.


are you guessing or are you boosting spiderman spidersense up like you always do. It is so over rated that it dont make any sense. Spiderman will never know where kurt will appear and he wont have a chance to dodge or punch something that is winking out and in that fast. I didnt know that spiderman had flash speed. A blood lusted kurt would destroy spiderman, plain and simple. How can spiderman spidersense give him that advantage when he have a hard time dodging the vulture and had a hard time dodging morlun. I dont think that morlun can move as fast as kurt teleporting abilities, do you. Kurt can be at spiderman legs throwing him and while flying through the air teleport again in front of spiderman pounding him in the head. I cant see spiderman winning this fight, its not going to happen. Now if the spiderman fans was voting on this fight or any fight that spiderman have against anyone, he can dodge anyone that is superman speed or below. You have to have flash speed to hit spiderman. Just to name some of the slow people that have hit spiderman with his spidersense being a 100%.... hulk, punisher, thing, vulture, rhino, hammer head, tombstone, etc.... and nightcrawler cant wear him down, yeah right. Easy fight for nightcrawler. 8 or 9/10. With swords 10/10.

Like i said before kurt already beat spiderman without his teleporting ability, imagine if he uses it. Can we say curbstomp.


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Basically all I need to say here is that, well, Spider-Man CAN dodge even a blood-lusted Nightcrawler. Having an early-warning detecting ability gives him a massive advantage here.

NC teleports. Spidey already knows where he'll end up. He avoids NC's attack, and counters with a superior one. IF one punch/kick isn't enough, then Spidey will just have to hit him again.


By the way, I guess kurt being as agile as he is and fast as he is, is just going to let spiderman hit him, when he can dodge and teleport out of the way from anything that spiderman is throwing. well if kurt is standing still then spiderman wins 10/10


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Nightcrawler. Teleportation can beat his Spider sense.

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Spider-Man FTW.


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Spidey has already beaten Kurt in a fight, anyone remember what Spidey did to him in The Secret Wars? Well he not only beat Kurt in one move, but he made fools of the entire X-Men team. Spiderman has been upgraded 2.5 times what he was back then. With one blistering punch he should be able to KO Night Crawler. Spiderman is faster, stronger and was able to go toe to toe with Wolverine while blood lusted. They fought in a cemetary and stalemated. Kurt just doesn't have the goods to take Spidey in any scenario.


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Ha, just thinking that thanks to OMD you may have to recalculate Spidey's upgrades. big grin


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Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
I kinda call PIS on that...That whole scene was kind of a "Lets make Spiderman look like a badass by moping the floor with all the X-Men!" type of scene.


I still like that scene for 'Dummy! No one can sneak up on me--!'. I don't think Spidey can walk the X-Men like that but still, Wolverine shouldn't present as big of a problem to him as he seems to.

I like Nightcrawler's Master of Chaos from X-Men Legends II and believe that he could take Spider-Man but it would take a lot from him as he would have to teleport many times a second to hit Peter enough times to take him out. Or instead of a punch he could take Peter on the ride too. That's supposed to be stressful for both parties and he could drop him off sky high too.

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