1. No. But the fact that Sasuke was not aiming for Deidara and then the fact that we see Deidara could not cope with his speed discredits that "feat." And he did not try to pursue Deidara with his speed. Which is what a speedblitz is.
3. You just asked for the manga view of the explosion, and those scans clearly show the explosion and the shield were not that large at all. Now, you're just trying to BS your way out of the argument.
4. Byakugan does not grant pre-cog abilities like I originally thought it did, that's Neji's natural speed. Answer this. Would Deidara have been un-injured if Sasuke kept trying to attack him instead of doing single sword slashes? The answer is obvious.
1. What I am trying to say is that Deidara still dodged the 1st one, even though not attempted for him. If Sasuke tried after the 1st one, Deidara would be dead.
3. Yes, before you posted it, I looked at it, and I didn't think that was right, and then I looked at the anime, and at first, they show it taking out the entire center, and then showing Gaara's sand covering almost all of the village.
4. Yeah it does, because if it didn't, then Lee would have beaten Neji's ass a long time ago because of the speed without weights. You never answered my question. Deidara would have died.
It allows you to see the persons chakra, and almost 360 degrees. So he can dodge most attacks.
Allowing you to see chakra and all-around doesn't suddenly make it have pre-cog abilities. The only thing it does is give you insight on a person. Neji is just a better taijutsu user than Lee..which is why he wins.
As for the fight Kisame would own Deidara.
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1. Then wtf are you even arguing? It doesn't matter if he can dodge the first friggin attack if he gets decapitated by the second.
3. And guess what? The manga is the canon, most official source of Naruto, NOT the anime! Because it was NEVER present in the anime that the explosion or the sand were as large as the village.
4. Or, maybe it is because Neji has the reflexes and speed to block and dodge Lee's blows? Yes Neji can dodge Lee without the Byakugan, because the Byakugan does not give precog abilities like the Sharingan.
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Can you explain to me how the **** "360 degree vision" is helpful at all when your opponent is standing right in front of you, throwing punches? You realize that in 99% percent of close quarters fights the two opponents are facing each other, right? So being able to see through your sister's t-shirt and having a 60 degree vision isn't at all helpful in a fist fight.
What were there stats before the timeskip in the first databooks? Even still what I said is relevant. Neji IS the better taijutsu user and that is why he wins.
Eh Deidara does have moves that could oneshot Kisame 100% or 30% I just don't think he has the speed to do it before Kisame does something.
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1. I am saying that he was still able to dodge the 1st one. Sasuke is faster than Kisame by alot, which makes dodging Kisame easier.
2. Anime shows all of the angles, and the manga gives one shitty look and that's it.
4. He can block and dodge his attacks because of his byakugan, allowing to see chakra, and 360 degrees. No he can't, are you crazy? Lee would easily destroy Neji if Neji didn't have byakugan. Byakugan allows you to see where the person will be, and has pretty much the exact thing as sharingan. Just look at the Naruto/Neji fight.
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Look at the Naruto fight/ What? Byakugan is useful there because Naruto can literally coem from any angle, because of his kage bunshins. Rock Lee can not do that.. so how woulda the Byakugan matter?
1. Sasuke is not faster than Kisame by alot. That's slander.
2. And it also shows what is incorrect. We clearly see from the ground in the manga that the sand shield was NOT as large as the village.
4. Which does not give you precog against an opponent or help you predict movements. Lee would destroy Neji if he did not have the Byakugan, you are right about that, but not because Neji uses it to track Lee's movements, it is because his entire fighting style depends on it. YOU look at the Naruto/Neji fight, the Byakugan was useful there because he had an opponent attacking from all angles, Lee is one person.
2. Yeah, one crappy view makes you correct? You really need to watch the anime, because it clearly shows sand over almost the entire village.
3. Yes, Lee would because he wouldn't be able to avoid any of his speed moves, unlike with Byakugan he can, so we agree on one thing. Well since Neji is a defensive fighter, Neji won't really attack unless he is attacked, and he won't be able to avoid Lee's speed, or use gentle fist. And you see Lee zooming around Gaara with 1 attack at his front, and less than a second later he is attacking his back dude.
1. Not by a substantial enough amount to change the difference between what would happen if they blitzed Deidara.
2. Only my view clearly shows it is not that large, and manga is canon, anime is not.
3. Can you fvckin read? Byakugan does NOT make it easier to dodge attacks, it has NEVER been stated, and you CAN'T prove it. He CAN avoid Lee's speed, he's DONE it. Gaara? Gaara is perhaps THE slowest character in the series, he is accustomed to no moving when fighting, and has never shown impressive reflexes. Neji, unlike Gaara, can do this funny thing called tracking Lee's movement and turning around.
The Byakugan is nothing like the sharingan. Everytime neji dodges an attack it is because of his own reflexes he dodges anything that comes in his general area. But there is still a chance he might get hit because he cant predict exactly where the attacks will go.
Sharingan on the otherhand allows you to counter and dodge attacks rather than just dodge. Because you can see when and where the punch will go before it is even thrown.
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1. There is a big difference if Kisame speed blitzed Deidara then when Sasuke speed blitzed Deidara actually. Kisame needs his sword to to a speed blitz and with it, it makes him slower than he really is, and with or without the sword, he is slower than Sasuke.
2. Manga sucks, anime doesn't .
3. Can you fvckin understand? Byakugan allows the user to see chakra wherever and whenever, allowing him to dodge attacks when normal people wouldn't be able to dodge attacks. Neji avoided Lee's speed with Byakugan activated, allowing him to see Lee's chakra, and without it, as we have already comfirmed, Neji gets stomped. Gaara has the sand to keep up most speed and usually doesn't need to worry about someone hitting him, and Gaara sadly has no Byakugan so he can stop attacks from Lee. If Neji didn't have Byakugan, and Gaara did, Garra would be able to stop Lee's attacks then. Anyone with Byakugan can stop Lee's speed.
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Jan 3rd, 2009 06:27 AM
Because it was NEVER present in the anime that the explosion or the sand were as large as the village.
Yes Neji can dodge Lee without the Byakugan, because the Byakugan does not give precog abilities like the Sharingan.
You really need to watch the anime, because it clearly shows sand over almost the entire village.
