I wasn't really trying to contradict what you said, as much as embellish on it a bit. Tactics to a strategy is like acts in a school play. They are the pieces that make up the whole, while team leading is an entirely separate issue imo.
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It wasn't a matter of simply inspiring the troops. It was his strategic planning and leadership that won battles on multiple fronts in face of hopeless odds and when the collective Galactic civilization proved to be utterly outmatched.
No offense, but the fact that you don't know this when it was highlighted (Literally entire issues revolved around the Avengers Army implementing Captain America's tactical strategy) makes me doubt you read the event.
All I was saying was that they aren't identical, so someone being good at strategy doesn't automatically make them good at tactics. you can be good at both, though.
Wakanda has been defeated or devastated in battle before, just like Utopia. And Cyclops showed during the Utopia-era such as during Dark Reign how capable he was in using ingenuity and whatever resources available to repel ridiculous odds.
You go from discussing strategy to scientific intelligence to loyalty. Which one is it? When it comes to strategic planning, Priest's Panther was pretty crazy but so was Utopia era Cyclops. T'Challa is more intelligent then Cyclops but that's irrelevant to this discussion. Cyclops being able to manipulate so many distinct personalities and powers to his advantage is NOT a knock on his strategic thinking. And he isn't the royal King of Mutants, his people are under no obligation to follow him or anything of the sort, hence the Schism. Not that T'Challa is perfect, we recently saw his royal guard, those SWORN to him desert him for doing what was necessary with the Illuminati. Which is very much the problem Scott had. Except Wolverine and co. weren't raised from birth with the sworn duty of serving only Scott.
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However being good at tactics does go a long way in helping one be good at strategy imo. It's a much more relevant issue than one's team leading prowess in relation to the question this thread is asking.
If we were simply talking about the ability to lead teams, my list would vary greatly from what I've stated here.
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i suggest you do the same, cap's central plan was laid out in either issue 2 or 3 and everything follows from that. i suggest you read black panther, dr. doom, and the other characters captain america is being compared to strategically if you think this feat of his strategic planning puts him above them.
When has Wakanda been devastated on panel? The only time Wakanda has arguably been defeated was when Namor had the power of the phoenix, and even then that sent Wakanda into war with Atlantis...which Wakanda won.
To mention some off the list, Starlord is very good.
And for Crossgen, Obregon Kaine. Managed to convincingly be in charge as a normal human even in a party with a herald-level god who doesn't like him, based on the strength of his tactical abilities.
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