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Who and what is Valkorion?
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S_W_LeGenD
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@Legend - Do you have the hardback? That probably explains why.

I don't know how the higlighted parts matter, but it's all meaningless in the end anyway because the quote only expresses Revan and Vitiate being two of the most powerful beings in the OR era, not the concrete two most powerful. In no way does Plagueis fall under that jurisdiction.

Sorry, no mention of word 'era' in that statement.

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Ursumeles
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Do you understand the timeline associated with the Old Republic?

Again, that statement is from BioWare and I posted it in response to a query from member Zenwolf. You reserve your facepalm for BioWare, not me,

Do you understand that two of the strongest =/= the two strongest?


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Do you understand that two of the strongest =/= the two strongest?

Which genius came up with this stupid logic?

Two of the most powerful means just that.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...st-powerful-men

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I know English isn't your first language, but this isn't that hard to grasp.

"Two of the most powerful" means you've selected any random two of a particular group (the most powerful Force users of TOR).

"The two most powerful means" you've selected specifically the top two.

Your article says Xi Jinping and Obama are "two of the most powerful", meaning that they're two among the most powerful in the world, but not necessarily the two most powerful (where's Putin?).

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Which genius came up with this stupid logic?

Two of the most powerful means just that.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...st-powerful-men

Yes, it does.

What it not means that two of the most powerful are the two most powerful.
Do you really don't understand something that simple erm

Xi Jinping is boss btw


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Legend plz


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I don't really see how that timeline makes sense there.

There's large gaps of time not filled in.


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Originally posted by SunRazer
I know English isn't your first language, but this isn't that hard to grasp.

"Two of the most powerful" means you've selected any random two of a particular group (the most powerful Force users of TOR).

"The two most powerful means" you've selected specifically the top two.

English is not my first language but I am an educated individual with the intellectual capability to understand much of the content. Kindly refrain from questioning my comprehension skills with idiotic logic.

According to BioWare, Revan and Emperor Valkorion are the two most powerful beings throughout the history of the Old Republic at minimum.

By the way:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...st-powerful-men

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...le-explanation/

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This is painful to read.


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Ah, **** me. I tried to explain it nicely and it came across as an insult. And somehow that was idiotic logic. Just **** me senseless, will you?

Sorry, Legend, I'm done. My patience is as thin as your understanding. Just because you're educated doesn't mean you're infallible, and here you are alone up against several native English speakers and you still can't accept that you're wrong. Your ego's higher than the Empire State Building and your humility lower than the Challenger Deep.

EDIT: And he gives me more of the "two of the most powerful" articles... you're about as ****ing consistent as pigeon shit on Trafalgar Square.

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English is not my first language but I am an educated individual with the intellectual capability to understand much of the content. Kindly refrain from questioning my comprehension skills with idiotic logic.

According to BioWare, Revan and Emperor Valkorion are the two most powerful beings throughout the history of the Old Republic at minimum.

By the way:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...st-powerful-men

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...le-explanation/


You're an idiot of truly epic proportions.
Two of X means just that: of X, these are two. So of the most powerful Force users, per Bioware, Vitiate and Revan are two.

Jesus Christ dude.

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According to BioWare, Revan and Emperor Valkorion are the two most powerful beings throughout the history of the Old Republic at minimum

No, it says that they are two of. Not the two.

Also, the links say two of as well.
Xi Jinping aren't necessarily the most powerful, for example.


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S_W_LeGenD
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Right.

The player is pulled into this struggle of two of the most powerful Force users, like ever, in the history of the Old Republic, if not beyond - Revan and the Emperor.

You guys are stuck at 'two of the most powerful' part in that statement. However, full statement includes two additional terms - like ever followed by in the history of the Old Republic.

Cherry-picking much?

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Ursumeles
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No.
We know that they are two of the most powerful individuals that ever lived.
But not the two most powerful, holy sh!t.

@Neph, could you explain it to him?


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"Like ever" does not change the fact that he's saying "two of the most powerful", not "the two most powerful".

"Like ever" is in reference to the history of the Old Republic, which is simply setting his sample space (powerful characters in the history of the Old Republic). He's still only taking a random two examples from the sample space, not the top two.

Jesus Christ.

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Plo Koon is a member of the Jedi High Council and a Jedi General in the Clone Wars. Koon is one of the most powerful Jedi ever, with awesome fighting ability, strong telekinetic powers and superb piloting skills.


Plo is the most powerful Jedi ever.


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I know that was supposed to be funny, but it just made me contemplate the possibility of Legend failing to interpret "one of the most powerful" as well. And now I'm scared.

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Plo is the most powerful Jedi ever.


But does "ever" include, like, the history of the Old Republic??

No??

False comparison.

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S_W_LeGenD
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I fully understand what "one of the most powerful" stands for.

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Ah, **** me. I tried to explain it nicely and it came across as an insult. And somehow that was idiotic logic. Just **** me senseless, will you?

Sorry, Legend, I'm done. My patience is as thin as your understanding. Just because you're educated doesn't mean you're infallible, and here you are alone up against several native English speakers and you still can't accept that you're wrong. Your ego's higher than the Empire State Building and your humility lower than the Challenger Deep.

EDIT: And he gives me more of the "two of the most powerful" articles... you're about as ****ing consistent as pigeon shit on Trafalgar Square.

Right.

Now, with due respect, please explain to me what the statement of BioWare translates into and what was my argument.

I'm listening.

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