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She is stated to wield Star/Light Energy. This can be seen, flying off of her limbs, in the game. She is also, officialy, called the Sun Goddess.
She flies around the universe, traverses dimensions, and states that she, herself, is from outer space, yet she makes it to all locations in very reasonable amounts of time. She is indeed FTL. Alpha 3 Max wasn't the only game she was in. CFJ is also canon to Ingrid and is the game responsible for her being an official character under the SF franchise.
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Okay, I see what you are sayin and I agree. Ryu is a warrior and Dhalsim is a religious monk. My point is, that if Ryu fought Dhalsim, in a fight, Ryu would lose.
Agreed. But how do we know that Ryu's case was not Dhalsim's same case, when Sim was young like Ryu?
That wasn't my point. The gist of what I was sayin, is that Dhalsim is older, wiser and has a better understandin of the human spirit. Dhalsim is beyond the point of strivin to become a better fighter. His life goals have been achieved. Unlike Ryu, who is still in the fray.
I already know all of this. What we seem to skip over is everything that happened before that ending. At the start of Evil Ryu's story, he wasn't completely enveloped in the power of the SNH. He 1st confronted Sagat, and Shin Bison. He was not driven to give in completely until he faced Shin Akuma. Evil Ryu's story didn't start with'im instantly above S.Akuma. Hell, Evil Ryu probably couldn't even beat Sagat at the start of his story. Sagat didn't even put his heart in to his battle with Evil Ryu and still managed to walk away alive. That's what I'm gettin at here.
Yes, a Total Evil Ryu at that time would match S.Akuma, at that time as well. But when they say he found a power to replace the SNH, I think they meant normal Ryu has surpassed the power of the SNH, Ryu canonly used. Not the "what if" Ryu who completely gives in. When, in canon, Ryu uses the SNH (not give in to the SNH, totally), I would put him at Normal Akuma's level. Not beyond that.
As sated above, I simply cannot agree with that. I can agree with Ryu, in SFIII, being above Normal Alpha Akuma, but not being above Alpha S.Akuma.
Again, I can't agree with this. The story clearly depicts Ryu (of SFII) needin the help of 4 others to beat SFII Bison. Ryu, just 5 or 6 years later, would not have the power to defeat a Bison twice as powerful (Alpha Bison).
It makes sense, just not correct sense. Their tiers have characters set in all over the place. They have nearly 10 tiers. No way is their that many. 90% of the SF cast across all games can be placed in the same tier. As mush as I respect those guys and are thankful for their inputs, just cuz Yun has the slight edge over Yang, doesn't mean they should be on 2 completely different levels. Same for Sakura and Karin. Theses characters should not be on different tiers. And just cuz we don't have alotta info on 1 character doesn't mean they should instantly be low tier. They make all of these mistakes and that's why I can't take it seriously, as well put together as it is.
My logic is brought to reality by the culmination of plot events and character info. Based on this, I can not agree.
None of the text you provided over turns the canon and official information I have presented. Oni is stated to be above Akuma, by Capcom, as I have shown. Your attempt to counter this is based solely on semantics and how you feel. Your theories are intriguing, but they are still theories, nonetheless. lol You can look at the names and meanings of their Ultras and the Ultras themselves and tell Oni far superior.
I mean seriously, the man can now fly and preform midair demons. Shin Akuma's intro has him crashin into the stage from the sky. Oni is seen comin down in a f**kin Magneto force field.
Shin Akuma is Akuma wieldin the maximum amount of SNH he can control; the max amount of SNH any human can possibly control.
Oni is a Akuma, transformed into a demon, now with no limits to the amount of SNH he can dish out. he is literally a being made out of SNH, he is the embodiment SNH.
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Shin Akuma has nothin on this.
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That's not actually a correction, it's an addition. SF is what cool people talk about 'And' is cool for people to talk about. Pleez don't start this, Ingrid would get her ass beat just as well.
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Shin Gouki being stronger then Oni is base off Ryu's SFA2 ending, basically Gouki destoryes a volcanic island while causing it to erupt by just punching the ground. while Oni jumps in the air and chops a already ready to erupt volcano making it expolded. well that's the bases of the reason anyways.
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I'll give him the flight thing. Maybe that's a new ability. It wouldn't make sense for him not to have it in SF3. All that retconning and adding new abilities leads to confusion for average fans who just casually play the game.
After playing MK9 story mode and watching the endings, I still can't see how people still believe some SF characters would stand any sort of chance against MK characters.
Last edited by JustInCase on Aug 16th, 2011 at 01:04 PM
What has Ryu done other than once defeating Sagat with a cheap wake up Shoryuken?
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