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If misquoting someone is my worst fail of the day I'm fine.


You did it twice, though.


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You did it twice, though.
Shit happens.

HA.



I was eating and on the phone.


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Shit happens.

HA.



I was eating and on the phone.


A dumb excuse (just like whatever that pig's is).


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A dumb excuse (just like whatever that pig's is).


Hey, you from LA?


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Hey, you from LA?


Los Angeles or Louisiana?

Both are rough precincts anyways. The LAPD and NOPD both have a decent number of ex-bangers in their Vice Units.

(As for my location: the 623 = Phoenix)


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Los Angeles or Louisiana?

Both are rough precincts anyways. The LAPD and NOPD both have a decent number of ex-bangers in their Vice Units.

(As for my location: the 623 = Phoenix)
Aaaaaaaaahahahaaaaa...................Wait, that's where I wanna live. Tuscon to be precise.


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I can imagine what I would be thinking if I were the cop. I'd be afraid of the crowd jumping in.


im really surprised they didn't

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If anyone is to blame here it's the city, for improper training, not the cop.


I wouldn't go that far:

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Racist, sexist, poorly trained, broke under pressure, or put on a show for the camera.

Whatever the reason (excuse) for punching an unarmed girl who was only annoying at worst, he should be stripped of his badge and filling out job applications.


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Tucson ("c" before "s") sucks.


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I wouldn't go that far:

Well, isn't the city responsible that he is trained properly? Responsible that the officers who train him are fully qualified/capable of doing so?


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Tucson ("c" before "s") sucks.
I've only visited a few times, I liked it.


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Well, isn't the city responsible that he is trained properly? Responsible that the officers who train him are fully qualified/capable of doing so?


Not if he dicked around in class, or only became a cop for the badge and respect.

Besides, cops have too much personal discretion and autonomy to blame "the system".


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Well, isn't the city responsible that he is trained properly? Responsible that the officers who train him are fully qualified/capable of doing so?


Psychology is something that you can train up to a very limited point. You can only be told to how to act in a specific situation. Wither or not you can think with the clarity to do it, is completely personal.


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Psychology is something that you can train up to a very limited point. You can only be told to how to act in a specific situation. Wither or not you can think with the clarity to do it, is completely personal.
Actually we were discussing how the officer seemed unable to restrain the woman, unable to apply the right technique. You know, shit they teach you in the academy.



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Not if he dicked around in class, or only became a cop for the badge and respect.

Besides, cops have too much personal discretion and autonomy to blame "the system".
Well, ideally those types of candidates should be weeded out. Unfortunately we live in an imperfect world.

I don't see the point of condemning all police as pricks because one chooses to throw a punch while being assaulted. After all, if a group of Marines rape an Iraqi woman, are all Marines in fact rapists?


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I don't see the point of condemning all police as pricks because one chooses to throw a punch while being assaulted. After all, if a group of Marines rape an Iraqi woman, are all Marines in fact rapists?


No, he's a prick.

You campared the police and the military? The military is a million times more rigid and organized than any PD. In Bootcamp you can do two things without permission: breathe and blink. The Police Academy is no where near as strict. Also, a Marine riding in an Abrams while doing a patrol in an Iraqi neighborhood has way less discretion than a cop cruising the beat in his black&white. For one, the Marine has to request permission to engage the enemy, and the request then has to be okayed by his CO.

An insurgent with an RPG =/= a pissed off skinny unarmed black girl.


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No, he's a prick.

You campared the police and the military? The military is a million times more rigid and organized than any PD. In Bootcamp you can do two things without permission: breathe and blink. The Police Academy is no where near as strict. Also, a Marine riding in an Abrams while doing a patrol in an Iraqi neighborhood has way less discretion than a cop cruising the beat in his black&white. For one, the Marine has to request permission to engage the enemy, and the request then has to be okayed by his CO.

An insurgent with an RPG =/= a pissed off skinny unarmed black girl.


You're missing my point. I am simply saying that one bad apple does not ruin the bunch.

Do all NBA players rape white girls like Kobe did?

Do all Presidents get their knobs polished by some intern in the White house?

Are all mechanics rip off artists?

Is every person of middle eastern ethnicity a terrorist?

No on all counts.

The officer was in a tense situation, he made a decision and executed. If he is so very wrong, why are no charges being pressed against him? Why did the girl apologize? Why didn't she get a shark lawyer and sue the city for millions?


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How the fck did NBA get into this thread?


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Had another look at the video. Even though she pushed him, he attacked her back via fighting which is not called for. This was not self defense or use of proper force.


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Had another look at the video. Even though she pushed him, he attacked her back via fighting which is not called for. This was not self defense or use of proper force.
I've asked this before, here it goes......What if the cop was a woman and the jaywalker a man? If she hit him after he pushed her, what then? Excessive force? What if she were a black female officer, and he a white man?


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Yes, the media is playing a big deal about this because of the color and sex issue. They're black and female vs a white male cop.


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Yes, the media is playing a big deal about this because of the color and sex issue. They're black and female vs a white male cop.
I am asking you what your take would be on it then, your personal opinion, as opposed to what it is now.


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