__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Nihilus is a swirling maelstrom of Hunger and once he senses a juicy snack like Vitiate, it's going to be very difficult for Vitiate to begin to persuade him not to eat him.
Unfortunately for Vitiate - it will be too late, as his unblockable Drain takes only a second to hit and Stun his opponent and a few seconds more to render dead.
Poor Vitiate, at least he made a tasty snack for the Lord of Hunger!
__________________ Originally posted by Arhael Okay, look. Um, me feels no agenda to meeting and vacuum in leadership position, so me has composed 12 point plan for good happy success.
__________________ Originally posted by Arhael Okay, look. Um, me feels no agenda to meeting and vacuum in leadership position, so me has composed 12 point plan for good happy success.
__________________ Originally posted by Arhael Okay, look. Um, me feels no agenda to meeting and vacuum in leadership position, so me has composed 12 point plan for good happy success.
I don't know what's sadder. That you spend every waking moment on these forums, or that you can't win a debate despite spending every waking moment on these forums
Yup. After kicking your ass without so much as putting forth any effort, I'm crying in the corner, while you spend all day lurking this forum.
Poor, delusional child.
Yes, as far as I can see. I have my reservations about the speed and effectiveness of Nihilus's ability to devour targets, but have yet to formulate them into an argument.
What I certainly object to is the notion that a figure with "planetary-level durability" would somehow fall to Mandalorians and lightsabers. The fact that he is psychically starved by attempting to drain the Exile doesn't lend itself to the idea that his armor, flesh?, and essence would somehow be softer. It's alleged that he survived the devastation of Malachor V (I haven't found that in the KotOR Campaign Guide, by the by), but this was prior to any training and he is not known to be some sort of Force prodigy a la Anakin Skywalker, Vitiate, Kajin Savaros, etc.
Then again, even if it were true, The Jedi Path survived the destruction of Byss via the galaxy gun and was fished from dead space by Squibs: we don't argue it would tank a Death Star shot.
On the other hand, pro-Vitiate arguments have been similarly without substance and it seems to be a nothing more than a pissing match.
* Nihilus's Drain is unblockable, and takes one second to strike and Stun the opponent, and two more seconds to render dead.
* Nihilus (especially at full power) is able to tank the force of a planet ripping into pieces.
* Nihilus's telekinetic power is so monstrous, that he can manhandle a massive Warship from the gravity-well of a Planet.
- So essentially, there is nothing Vitiate can do, here.
Nihilus can potentially kill him in one unblockable-hit; Vitiate can't really do anything to significantly damage Nihilus, since he would need aid from a Death Star to accomplish the amount of force needed and if he tried to use TK on Nihilus, the Lord of Hunger would merely crush him like a cockroach.
Vitiate dies here.
__________________ Originally posted by Arhael Okay, look. Um, me feels no agenda to meeting and vacuum in leadership position, so me has composed 12 point plan for good happy success.
...According to Kreia. Getting to the aforementioned pissing match with Vitiate is silly if this is the avenue you plan to take: he has more historians and in-universe sources wanking him than Nihilus.
It took him a second to strike and stun the Exile, who is substantially weaker than Vitiate in all ways; we do not automatically assume attacks will produce similar results against a more powerful and prepared adversary.
The problem with this has already been addressed.
From the surface of Malachor V, yes? Which is known to be an exceptionally powerful dark side nexus, if I recall.
I'm not saying Vitiate wins, I'm saying there's an argument to be had. Alas, neither side seems keen on actually contributing one.
Jan 5th, 2013 07:22 PM
