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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Broken ribs are hyperbole now?
This is the same OF Thor that survived direct exposure to the Destroyer's Beam attack. Yet Bor was capable of damaging him with one attack.
It's pretty obvious Bor would have destroyed standard Thor.
It's called HYPERBOLE. Has Thor survived attacks from beings GREATER than Bor and lived? Yes? It's HYPERBOLE then.
Add in the fact that Bor did nothing else impressive on panel and you don't need to be an oracle to see where this is going.
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Mar 27th, 2013 12:40 PM
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I think the team has a chance...Bor has a chance to win too..but i will go with Supes and Cap M
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Mar 27th, 2013 01:42 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
It's called HYPERBOLE. Has Thor survived attacks from beings GREATER than Bor and lived? Yes? It's HYPERBOLE then.
Add in the fact that Bor did nothing else impressive on panel and you don't need to be an oracle to see where this is going.
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Thank you for that Starscream.
Hyperbole would have been if Thor hadn't take any damage at all and said I think that may have killed my former self.
Instead this is OF Thor getting injured and stating he knows he couldn't have taken more. I think that's a pretty clear point to be made about Bor's power output and a clear feat of the fact he could have killed OF Thor where the Destroyer failed.
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Mar 27th, 2013 01:44 PM
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Anyone using Rulk at all from his early showings needs to stand in the corner and think about what they're doing.
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Mar 27th, 2013 01:47 PM
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I think that people are overblowing "I would've died" statement a bit much than its due. First thor survived Destroyer's beam later while it killed him the first time. Second, Durok nearly killed thor while later thor killed Durok. So Thor>Thor now?
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Mar 27th, 2013 02:08 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
Anyone using Rulk at all from his early showings needs to stand in the corner and think about what they're doing.
I won't stand in a corner. Wattya gonna do bout it?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
I think that people are overblowing "I would've died" statement a bit much than its due. First thor survived Destroyer's beam later while it killed him the first time. Second, Durok nearly killed thor while later thor killed Durok. So Thor>Thor now?
Thor had some of the odinforce. You can try and twist it around but most of us have read this and see right through your spins.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
I think that people are overblowing "I would've died" statement a bit much than its due. First thor survived Destroyer's beam later while it killed him the first time. Second, Durok nearly killed thor while later thor killed Durok. So Thor>Thor now?
Which time are you saying Thor survived teh Destroyer's beam. Cause if you're talking about the nwer version of Thor he survived it while in possession of the OF.
Also wasn't one of the time he survived because he blocked it with his hammer?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Which time are you saying Thor survived teh Destroyer's beam. Cause if you're talking about the nwer version of Thor he survived it while in possession of the OF.
Also wasn't one of the time he survived because he blocked it with his hammer?
I thought it was during one of his fights with destroyer during classic era.
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Mar 27th, 2013 02:31 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
I thought it was during one of his fights with destroyer during classic era.
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Mar 27th, 2013 02:41 PM
zopzop
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Hyperbole would have been if Thor hadn't take any damage at all and said I think that may have killed my former self.
Instead this is OF Thor getting injured and stating he knows he couldn't have taken more. I think that's a pretty clear point to be made about Bor's power output and a clear feat of the fact he could have killed OF Thor where the Destroyer failed.
So Bor >>>>>Destroyer Armor?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
I think that people are overblowing "I would've died" statement a bit much than its due. First thor survived Destroyer's beam later while it killed him the first time. Second, Durok nearly killed thor while later thor killed Durok. So Thor>Thor now?
+1 ROFLMAO
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Mar 27th, 2013 02:47 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Which time are you saying Thor survived teh Destroyer's beam. Cause if you're talking about the nwer version of Thor he survived it while in possession of the OF.
Also wasn't one of the time he survived because he blocked it with his hammer?
He's just anally upset with the idea that OF Thor or Bor would slam these guys into the next century
As I can remember off the top of my head the Destroyer Beam cut through his hammer in v1, killed him in v2, was killing him again later in v2 and then he tanked it with the OF in v3. They're just trying to diminish the Destroyer's feats when it's been one of the more consistent powerhouses in the Thor comics.
Mar 27th, 2013 02:58 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Broken ribs are hyperbole now?
This is the same OF Thor that survived direct exposure to the Destroyer's Beam attack. Yet Bor was capable of damaging him with one attack.
It's pretty obvious Bor would have destroyed standard Thor.
Exactly.
Even if we refuse to take Thor's words at face value, the damage Bor did to Thor directly was profound.
Just blocking Bor's scythe attack snapped Thor's rib. I also want to believe that Thor knows what could kill him or not.
That's serious power.
Mar 27th, 2013 03:28 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
So Bor >>>>>Destroyer Armor?
+1 ROFLMAO Based on who was able to injure OF Thor yeah I guess Bor would win that.
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Mar 27th, 2013 04:14 PM
zopzop
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Based on who was able to injure OF Thor yeah I guess Bor would win that.
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Mar 27th, 2013 05:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by deathlife
Exactly.
Even if we refuse to take Thor's words at face value, the damage Bor did to Thor directly was profound.
Just blocking Bor's scythe attack snapped Thor's rib. I also want to believe that Thor knows what could kill him or not.
That's serious power.
What you don't understand is that feat doesn't prove that Bor would beat Superman.
Remember Bor's durability can be bypassed by Superman, Superman is much faster, etc.
Boards don't hit back remember.
Do you think HP DD could break one of OF Thor's ribs with a single punch?
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Mar 27th, 2013 05:55 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
Do you think HP DD could break one of OF Thor's ribs with a single punch?
I don't anybody believes HP DD would break Thor's rib with a single punch that THOR BLOCKED.
Mar 27th, 2013 06:49 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rao Kal El
What I meant is this.
A) The writer decides to portray a skyfather at few blocks buster level.
, but decides to portray a herald at city buster level.
Then it means the asumption of someone being skyfather is wrong.
B) The writer decides to portray a skyfater at a few blocks buster level and decides to portray a herald at building buster level.
Then it means the assumption of someone being skyfather is correct.
IF the writer decides to estate on panel a power level then it has to be congruent with the showing.
Therefore if Bor shot at OF thor and he didnt got killed, but it estates that it would have killed his former self, then it will be wise to look for anotherr instance of Bor shoting someone on classic thor level, to see if the estament is correct. This has to be under the same writer.
But tbh i have not read those issues, so, since I do not know anything about Bor, that is why i decide just to read the debate.
I just thought it will be an easy way to get his power level based on panel.
A lot of sense in your post my friend
quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
It's actually worst than that.
No one cares if he's all seeing. The fact that he couldn't stop or reverse the spell, once he was aware he was being attacked, is the pathetic part.
I still stand by my original post though. Bor wins but Team gives him hell.
Zopzop I find most of your post very reasonable and sensible, whilst my opinion on the outcome is different to you, a lot of this post makes sense to me.
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Mar 27th, 2013 09:32 PM
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Bor wins this.Anyone using the example of Loki turning Bor to snow needs to read the issue.Loki himself mentions Bor will only expect a brawl and not use magic against him.So Bor was caught off guard.And if anyone is wondering why Bor couldn't reverse it, the keyword was Bor expected a brawl.Bor's knowledge of magic might have been limited since this was the time the Aesir and Vanir weren't joined together to become the Asgardians that we know of.The Vanir's were stated to be the ones will versed in magic while the Aesir's were the one's proficient in weaponized warfares.But one could say the Aeisr's at least knows a defense against magical assaults.Bor took it to Thor with the Odinforce.Thor commenting that it would have killed him if not for the Odinforce.This isn't the first time Thor with the Odinforce was put on the ropes.Thor with the Odinforce battled Surtur.And Thor was actually getting blisters just touching Surtur.And this is Surtur w/o the Twilight sword.Yet Thor is getting burned while they were grappling.And Surtur is confirmed a skyfather level being since he is capable of destroying a galaxy.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Igniz
Bor wins this.Anyone using the example of Loki turning Bor to snow needs to read the issue.Loki himself mentions Bor will only expect a brawl and not use magic against him.So Bor was caught off guard.And if anyone is wondering why Bor couldn't reverse it, the keyword was Bor expected a brawl.Bor's knowledge of magic might have been limited since this was the time the Aesir and Vanir weren't joined together to become the Asgardians that we know of.The Vanir's were stated to be the ones will versed in magic while the Aesir's were the one's proficient in weaponized warfares.But one could say the Aeisr's at least knows a defense against magical assaults.Bor took it to Thor with the Odinforce.Thor commenting that it would have killed him if not for the Odinforce.This isn't the first time Thor with the Odinforce was put on the ropes.Thor with the Odinforce battled Surtur.And Thor was actually getting blisters just touching Surtur.And this is Surtur w/o the Twilight sword.Yet Thor is getting burned while they were grappling.And Surtur is confirmed a skyfather level being since he is capable of destroying a galaxy.
I would take the time to read your undoubtedly intelligent hypothesis; however, your punctuation hurts my eyes.
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