well, I prefer not to get into casting spells. I have tried that before and for me, its to risky. I don't feel safe. Although we could try getting us altogether. Since you do have a different Religion then I do, I think with both us we have a better chance of contacting something. As long as its not evil, I have been near demons before and I didn't like it, I did some serious praying when that happened.
Because I have the ability to deny what you're showing me? I'm sorry that you feel so sure this is all real for you, but you cannot prove it. The sooner you accept this, the sooner we can move along.
The thing I enjoy here, is how I've been getting insulted by two people. Nothing done about it. If it were me, I'd be out the back door.
Your one of those people that need everything proved. Problem is your afraid this does exist thats why your trying to say lets move on. Laugh at Spelljammer and I all you want. Its very real. I know what he does his real, I don't necessarily agree with it, But I believe him and I think he is a cool person. Ghost are real and so are demons and other entities....so go on laugh it up. The veil between the living and the dead is becoming much thiner. Chances are sometime in your life you will also experience something along the lines of Paranormal.
You're one of those people who say they can prove it. I'm one of those who want things proven. So? What are you waiting for? Do it. Oh wait, you have. You've told me why you believe they're real, cool. You've not proven anything because you can't.
Pardon me, but if you're saying "Ghosts are real", I'm gonna wanna hear a lil bitta reasoning behind that theory.
Prove everything you're saying or stop saying it as fact.
It's so very cowardly to resort to the "You're afraid" arguement. I'm not, I'm asking you to prove to me beyond all deniability, FACTUALLY (you can't), that they are real. You haven't done so, you can't do so. You don't like that, but guess what? Isn't my problem.
I TOLD YOU, THEY ARE REAL. I HAVE SEEN THEM, AND I HAVE FELT THEM. I TOLD YOU I WOULD SHARE MY EXPERIENCES WITH YOU, BUT YOUR THE IDIOT WHO SAID YOU WOULD LAUGH.....Your just pure ignorant. I cant make you see what I saw or what I felt. But if someone sees something or feels it, it means its their unless their high or something and I for have never touched drugs or been drunk so I obviously am not insane or hallucinating. they are very real.
RG,Please calm down. Asking for proof is perfectly valid if you're making a claim as you are. If you don't want to provide reasoning or proof, I'd suggest you say "I believe ghosts are real" rather then "Ghosts ARE real". One is making a very straight forward and factual sounding claim, and with such comes the burden of proof. The other allows you to let people know how you feel without worrying about proving something that can't be proven. It's win win.
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You keep saying that and everytime you say it, it's still just your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm really sorry that you feel so strongly about this and can't prove it, but you can't.
Second, I never said I'd laugh, so chill out.
Where are the mods? I swear I've been banned for less.
I'm not ignorant, I'm curious. You won't indulge my curiousity and you won't admit that despite believing it strongly, you can't prove it. Not my problem, not my deal.
You CONTINUE to say "They're real. They're REAL!" That doesn't make it provable. It's not.
Raven_Guardia, you said you can prove such things exist, but when you're asked for such proof, you flip your lid. Makes it seem like you know you can't yet don't want to admit it.
When it comes to things like this, everyone will have their own beliefs as to whether they exist or not. I don't believe in ghosts or spirits, and it will take a HELL of a lot of irrefutable proof for me to believe such things exist. That's not to say I'm not interested in the subject, just that I won't believe it to be real without some real evidence. And the personal experiences of a couple people do not make up such proof, sorry to inform you.
If you are interested I will tell you what happened to me
I am not flipping me lid, people don't believe me they always need such proof. well somethings are always provable but they are still real. And lots of people have had Paranormal experiences just not a few
What? Is he suppose to snap his fingures and give you proof? What is it with liberals "we want proof" "we want this, that, and the other". Who do you think you are?
You can believe (or lack thereoff) whatever the hell you want. But don't insult him, or anybody else for what they believe. You don't like it when it's done to you, so don't do it to them. I know liberals get away with murder. But better I atleast warn you so maybe in the back of your mind, you remember karma still applies to even non-believers..
I don't think it's too much to ask to say stop trolling.
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I posted in Caps so I could stress my point, that I had experience. every since I can remember I have always been around Paranormal. I lived in a house that was built on Indian grounds most the freaky stuff happened there, I moved in 8th grade to where I live now, and had some experiences at places like Gettysburg, St.Augustine,etc. and I am in Paranormal group we go to "haunted" places and investigate, so far I had some experiences in some of those places too.Offered my way of proof be he choose that wasn't "proof" for him.
Well thats up to you, I am not believing things blindly in my case, because like I said things have happened to me that can only be paranormal related.
That is a random swear because ALPHA CENTAURI IS NOT TROLLING, NOR IS HE BEING UNREASONABLE. RAVEN GUARDIA, STOP WITH THE "I HAVE PROOF" BIT AND MAKE WITH IT OR STFU. SPELLJAMMER, BEING A LIBERAL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WANTING PROOF OF SOMETHING'S EXISTENCE. IT HAS TO DO WITH LOGIC--AND AC IS NOT INSULTING RAVEN GUARDIA FOR HIS OR HER BELIEFS. HE IS INSULTING HIM OR HER BECAUSE HE OR SHE CANNOT UNDERSTAND HIS OR HER ILLOGIC WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT ALPHA CENTAURI IS TRYING TO SAY.
Christ!
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