The only thing that woman showed was a lack of personal responsibility and coherent thought. Did she assume that there would be no consequences for her action?
What did she really think was going to happen when she approached an officer and attempted to work against him? I bet it wasn't "FALCON PUNCH!"
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I just noticed something.....When she pushes him, watch closely. Before he rears his hand back to hit her, she has her hands raised, like she is gonna punch him.
I guarantee you if he hadn't hit her, she would have hit him.
Or not, cuz all cops are bad.
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its actually suppose to reduce injury to the officer and the perp...
the reason they dont want you punching and kicking is b/c it can seriously injure and kill the perp. your told not to strike the head and places like the ribs but meaty areas like thighs and bicep.
hard to argue against police brutality when the vic has knuckle and boot marks and you're train against that and using open palm strikes instead.
punching is actually less effective then applying pressure holds along with blood and air chokes.. i believe the academy doesnt want officers using air chokes same as the marine MP/OC/ micmap training.
Have you even met the "strong black woman" type? Those bitches are tough and don't take shit from anyone, especially a newb white police officer. Yes, I'm dead serious.
Sure, better to twist their hands behind their back, risking a broken arm or an injured shoulder. And slamming them to the ground? That's got zero room for injury.
Just watched the vid again, closer this time, and what I just posted rings true. If the cop wouldn't have hit her, she was gonna hit him, or at the very least be all up in his shit. What DDM just posted:
Have you even met the "strong black woman" type? Those bitches are tough and don't take shit from anyone, especially a newb white police officer. Yes, I'm dead serious.
QFT, man, I know from experience.
Dumb ***** hit the wrong man.
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The crowd was not antagonistic until he threw the punch, and even then, the crowd was simply concerned and surprised, they weren't anywhere near getting involved.
It was obvious that I was talking about disarming someone who had a gun. Not scaring some unarmed teenage girl into not being annoying anymore. But yes, if your point is that punching someone is cool because it will make them go away, that's true. Doesn't make it the right course of action, though.
again it doesnt matter what you think might happen it is what is written as procedure and a properly applied technique will not harm the perp unless he or she suffers from some calcium problem.
aside from that what is more likely to occur and preferred to happen.. a broken wrist and bruises from being forcibly restrained and pushed to the ground by a kick to the back of the knee and a twisted arm and on the off chance a broken bone?
or a broken nose, teeth and at the worse unconscious, death coma etc etc..
now paramedics are involved and your in violation of procedures to boot..
i agree that the b#@#@ should have bn punch and knocked the F@#@ out but not by the police and not by some one that is suppose to uphold the rules and follow procedures
that is the problem with ppl nowadays she or he is a criminal had it coming guy should get a metal...ect ect.. no... he broke the rules in the course of his duty and proven to be unfit.. if ppl feel different then after his punishment hire him and give him money
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People can moan and ***** about it all they want but this is for internal and external inquiries are for. We all have opinions but in the grand scheme of thing our opinions mean squat... So lets just not share them! Simply as this is one of the most tedious bunch of posts I've ever read. Especially the ones of a certain soft fruit.
We didn't watch the same vid, then. They were ataganozing long before the berch got a beat down.
Ergo my putting "disarm" in quotes. It's a metaphor for "disarming the situation from her."
I agree with your second point, of course. I think Wild Shadow put it into perspective on how many different options, that were better, could have been employed.
YEAH! Let's not have a forum because our opinions mean SQUAT! WEEEEE!
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But his "guild president" condoned his actions so he's not going to lose his job or get suspended without pay, or anything. Worst he'll get is some cuffing training which he is in desperate need of.
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On matters regarding the law... Yeah, they do...
I bet both parties involved would rather the incident had never happened... If only to stop the inane chatter that is spewing out all of your keyboards.
i have, repeatedly, at least the military MP version which is actually the same possibly minor changes.
the answer he was not here is the civilian version plus the steps and when to employ them.. escalation of force and arrest. http://www.policetest.info/FORCE_CO...SE_OF_FORCE.htm
we can argue over a lot of the points, but I guess what I was really trying to say is that, even if it was a difficult situation or a tough "on-your-toes" call, that nothing the officer did helped him gain control of the situation. In fact, punching the girl in the face nearly started a meele.
We can have sympathy for the fact that maybe he didn't want to use as much force as would have been necessary to restrain the girl properly, but even then, his behaviour didn't really do anything to take control of the situation, which is his job.
at best, it was a crap shoot over how involved her friends would get after hitting her, a realistic possibility being a meele between an officer and a number of teens.
Even then however, the punch and the ineffective shoving he carried on with with the girl escalated, predictably, the situation. There was not one thing that he did which made the situation better.
This incident is a prefect example of why patrolmen should always work in pairs.
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