Despite what KMC'ERS say until read in comic book pages Hulk saying he has a limit or he has reached his limit what is said other wise is wrong. Fact is it has been said a number of times in a number of book by other character that either his strength is incalculable and or there is no has limit to his power.
With Prep, Ironman. Outright destroy him (Destroy means it's a one sided beat down)...this depends entirely on the Hulk we are discussing. A pissed Hulk has taken on teams that consisted of Heralds. An irate Hulk has taken on Namorita, Namor, and Thor at the same time. Complete annihilation, I would say Odin, Zeus, or Tyrant. That's the minimum for a pissed Hulk. Hell, in an outright destroy fashion, I would say that's the minimum for Superman and Thor as well.
1.Sungocd- HE LIVES... context, he took an antidote before facing Sun God
2.Black Bolt - got one pieced by Hulk
3.Thor-FEAR ITSELF - Thor admitted he couldn't beat Hulk and never could
4.Hyperion-AVENGERS Kirkman arc - Hulk was brainwashed
5.Champion W/PG - the writer himself said that he was unsure on who would win between the two which is the reason he disposed of Hulk/bfred Hulk during their encounter.
What do you mean "not nearly"? The "angrier he gets the stronger he gets" aspect of the character has already been a well established staple of his mythos long before that fight in Defenders.
And why wouldn't it make sense for Thor to match Hulk in strength? He is one of the strongest heroes in comics. You make it seem like Hulk is far and away stronger than any hero. Did it occur to you that maybe Thor bolds back greatly and has a degree of dynamic strength in his mythos as well?
Yes in Thor #385 Hulk came out looking better. A lot of things involved in that fight, but it's not like Hulk was so far beyond Thor and just completely dominated the fight every step of the way.
In LBB the even the writer throws some shade on the story by literally stating that it was a fight "OUT OF TIME". Furthermore he went on to say that it was actually a dream sequence that Hulk may not be remembering properly. There are other more credible sources than LLB.
Smh.
Forgoing the fight is most likely out of continuity, I'm not saying the fight did not happen in the comic. I'm saying that the details of the fight may be different from what Bruce is currently telling his fan based on his comment after he finished telling the story. Something that the writer made a point of.
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antidote? where did this happen?
bolt has ko'd hulk as well.
thor said it, then...beat him. and has ko'd hulk in the past.
brainwashed? again, proof of this?
writer said what? again, when was this said?
fights where his strength never grew to the point where he was beating the opponent down? bi-beast, hercules, multiple thor fights, multiple fights against thing, fights against namor, vs sentry, vs void, clear limit vs zeus, multiple fights vs wolverine, asgardian destroyer throttled him, fight vs titannus, vs rulk, obviously surfer can take him out at will, fights vs juggernaut, vs wendigo, classic ironman has beaten him down and ko'd him...
in some of those match ups he HAS won some, but in many (the majority) of the fights his strength never seems to definitively surpass his foe. he has had both good and bad showings vs abomination for example. there are literally COUNTLESS battles in his history where his 'dynamic' strength levels off, or seemingly stops progressing but in most of the above it never clearly surpasses his opponent, and if he does it's not by enough to really matter (in most, he is already as strong as the person he is fighting).
again, he CAN and HAS surpassed opponents. but he does NOT always do so, and historically the times he has gone and overwhelmed an opponent are FAR outweighed by the number of times he has NOT done so. pis? i dunno. i'd never have called it that in the past. maybe some limiting factor on anger or something, but i'd certainly not call it pis. the odds of him far surpassing marvel's strength in this battle are....almost zero imo. he'd def match him, and maybe surpass him by a small amount, but i don't see hulk overwhelming marvel in any way often, unless he goes all out wbh, which is ooc anyway.
Carver's (and Stoic's) theory is that Banner had an antidote weakening the Hulk.
That he was going Gray Hulk during the fight with Sun God.
When in fact, all the serum did was control when he turned unto Hulk, throttling it back when he didn't want to become Hulk. But once he Hulked out, he was green and Hulky.
Carver and Stoic then tries to blame artists and colourists not knowing how to do their jobs. It was highly messy, and a whole thread was dedicated to it where I pointed out all the inconsistencies with that argument.
Sigh...I'm not responding to this because it's obvious you didn't read the stories. Why would you ask me about an antidote when in the same book before the fight, Hulk took an antidote?
Thor bfred Hulk. I don't consider that a win.
Why are you asking me if Hulk was brainwashed when in the same story, a comic before their fight he gets brainwashed? I don't understand. If you're going to debate against me on these topics, at least read the books. I'm not posting scans when you're disputing something you don't even know about. Can someone else take Leo place on this topic.
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He actually has valid points. He did admit hulks strength is dynamic. Just not as dynamic as some tend to think. You're not wrong either. Hulk has a history of showings and lip service to back it.
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you're hilarious. those stories came out what? two years ago? and i'm supposed to remember and just...take YOUR word for it happening like you said it did? wtf? you think my world revolves around reading and remembering every detail in a comic book? if you say it happened, cool--show it happened. more importantly, show what you said happened actually had an impact on events the way you're alluding to--ie--you're making excuses, so be my guest and prove you're excuses have at least SOME sort of merit. the rest of my post you left alone because, well, there is no reply to it that you can give i'm afraid...
i'd love it though if someone, ANYONE, unbiased and knowledgeable in the history of the character took your place in this discussion since you seem to be pretty much all alone in your opinion.
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Sep 19th, 2016 02:33 AM
... I know you've read all of the stories. Would you like to take his place?
