Yoda and Obi-Wan dominate. What can either one of the sith do to obi-wan that yoda won't do to the other sith in the meantime? Obi-wan's no pushover, to either Dooku, or Marek. (especially to marek)
In fact, i can't see marek beating obi-wan. Shaak Ti had Marek beaten before he pretty much force screwed her while she had her lightsaber extinguished. Obi-Wan is clearly > than Shaak Ti. Dooku could beat obi-wan, but a duel between marek and yoda would be as lopsided as teh duel between marek and sidious after sidious gave up on turning marek to the darksdie.
Jedi WTF pwn.
There's "defeated by Dooku" then there's "a pushover to Dooku."
Pushover to Dooku is like Ahsoka to Dooku. But the Clone Wars I'm sure will prove quite the opposite.
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Dooku vs Obi-Wan = Dooku
Dooku vs Yoda = Yoda
Marek (sith) vs Obi-Wan = Obi-Wan
Marek (sith) vs Yoda = Yoda
Marek (jedi) vs Obi-Wan = Marek
Marek (jedi) vs Yoda = Yoda
Depends on the team and the match.
1.Dooku fights Obi and Sith Marek fights Yoda, then Dooku wins and Marek loses, then Dooku fights Yoda, then Yoda comes out as the victorious one.
2.Dooku fights Yoda and Sith Marek fights Obi, then Dooku loses and Marek loses, maybe some luck and Marek wins, but eventually he wil lose to Yoda. Yoda wins again.
3.Dooku fights Obi and Jedi Marek fights Yoda, then Dooku wins and Marek loses then Dooku, then Dooku fights Yoda, then Yoda wins for the third time.
4.Dooku fights Yoda and Jedi Marek fights Obi, then Dooku loses and Marek wins. Then Marek fights Yoda and Yoda wins. But Obi can win too, 50/50. Also Marek can win too against Yoda, but with lucky and very small percentage.
Result : Jedi Team win 100% of the time, but it can be 90% of the time if there's some luck.
but the daft assumption uv made there is that everyone fights one on one, and that both fights last the exact same amount of time.
Obi1 is the weak link here, and he can easily be taken out the most quickly.
If Dooku can take him out with a flick of the wrist while fending off him and Anakin, then I dnt see why either Dooku or Marek could spare a few seconds to do that again while theyre both mainly concentrating on Yoda. then Yoda would get double teamed with NO distractions.
Seems quit the pushover to me when talking about him vs Dooku. Once Dooku go serious he seperated him. Then right when Kenobi got back up Dooku again seperated him, but this time permanently. It was clear that Dooku was only interested in Anakin and Kenobi was like a fly being swatted around.
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Indeed, I made that prediction if everyone fights one on one, and htat both fights last the exact same amount of time. Well, if it's 2 on 2, I think the Sith Team have big chance to win. Because I predict Obi-Wan will be the first to go down (remember what Dooku did to Obi in AOTC and ROTS?). And Yoda has to fight both of them after Obi is down. And personally, I don't think Yoda can take them both at the same time. If it's Jedi Marek, I doubt Yoda has big chance of winning. But this fight will be whole different story if it's Sith Marek. I think the Jedi Team will win if it's Jedi Marek.
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And Yoda get a power boost too . And Obi get a power boost too. Oh, no. I forgot about The Valley of The Jedi. Jedi Team win this hands down. I thought this is a neutral ground like Nar Shadaa. Forgive my mistake, please.
Oh, I have a correction to do. I think the Jedi Team will win if it's SITH Marek, not Jedi Marek. But all of them is applicable only to neutral ground. On Valley of The Jedi, Jedi Team win every time
Last edited by Ultimate Vader on Oct 11th, 2008 at 05:12 PM
Yoda could defeat marek as quickly as sidious did, so in the case, as listed above, that Dooku can take out obi-wan in 5 seconds, those same five seconds would include yoda taking out marek, so then you have dooku vs. yoda, and we know how that goes.
Obi-wan would defeat Marek, or at least give him a very good fight, not a five second KO as seems to be implied here. remember marek was losing to shaak ti who is not as powerful as kenobi. Yoda would defeat Dooku by the time Marek coudl get the upperhand against Obi-Wan.
I doubt that the Jedi win. They don't have the offensive Force powers to quickly eliminate an opponent. Yoda is the strongest in the Force, but he can't effectively use all that power. Obi-wan isn't a pushover either, but he can offensively use the Force even less than Yoda. It's close, but it probably goes to the Sith.
Interesting thread, btw
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