No, you come on! Kenobi soundly defeated Darth Vader, one of the most powerful Sith of the era, and walked away physically unscathed. His mastery of Soresu would surely led Kas'im to his demise.
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Except there's no indication Anakin is anywhere near Kas'im's level of saber combat. Not to mention Kenobi knew all of Skywalker's moves and Skywalker got cocky at the end.
"Kas'im was so proficient at lightsaber combat that he was considered amongst the Sith to be the greatest swordsman of his age, and possibly one of the greatest ever to have lived."
He is also said to of been a master of all forms therefore including Soresu, he must then also know all of Soresu's 'moves' for lack of a better word.
I think Kas'im would have this unless Kenobi can bring down a temple on him like Bane did and as were on the plains of Naboo, I doubt thats going to happen.
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"Mastered" is relative. You can master one aspect of an art and not master another aspect of it. It's just as fallacious a quote as Anoon's "technical skill" quote.
Well I see it this way, it was stated Kas'im was extremely profficient in all forms of Saber Combat, I think he has at least a high level of skill with each. Although, he couldn't devote as much time to them since he learned them all.
Obi-Wan studied Soresu intently till he was regarded as the best at it. I think that his singular study of Soresu, the most defensive of the forms, gives him more ability with that one form, while Kas'im has extremely good, but still watered down versions of all of them.
I think Obi-Wan defends until Kas'im makes a mistake, or gets tired. Either way, it's a loooooooong fight.
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Except in this case, Kas'im mastered EVERY aspect of lightsaber combat, whether it's one blade, a double blade, or two blades. There is no indication Kenobi is in the same league as him, which he's not.
And PT>BoS is absolutely irrelevant. There are very few individuals that could take Bane and Kenobi isn't one of them.
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Darth Maul and Grievous as well I guess, but regardless of that fact, his demonstrated experience (as in his proven experience; all that he can be said to possess) fighting the form numbers in the minutes, at most. To claim that whatever familiarity with the weapon he gained through that would even register to Kas'im's seven form mastery of the weapon would be undeniably retarded. Kas'im, by all available evidence, is Obi-Wan's superior in technical skill by several billions of miles, can almost definitely bring stuff to the table that Obi-Wan would be completely unfamiliar with, and has also demonstrated a vastly more impressive command of the Force. Obi-Wan gets stomped.
Edit - Out of curiosity, if you're willing to give it, what is your opinion of the two of these combatants? How closely would you rank them? I'm genuinely curious.
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Nah. Logically? Kas'im is better than Kenobi. But nothing -- nothing -- he has done or what you have said makes me think that he's going to be getting through Kenobi's defenses unless he's somehow Dooku-class with the Force (and he's not).
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