In your mind, is that answer acceptable? Does it make sense to you?
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
You are right. Jesus Christ has no sin, neither has He committed any sin.
Moreover, the Lord Jesus Christ is without sin.
Hebrews 4:15
15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
1 Peter 2:22
22 Who committed no sin ,
Nor was deceit found in His mouth;
1 John 3:5
5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.
John 8:46
46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?
Sin is "missing the mark".
The mark is God's Word/will.
When we sin, we are missing the mark or God's will revealed through His Word (spoken and written).
Jesus can save us.
Hebrews 7:25
Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him , since He always lives to make intercession for them.
That's why the Word (i.e. Jesus Christ, the Eternal One, before taking upon Himself human flesh) descended from the Kingdom of Heaven to become the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world (Hebrews 10:5-10, John 1:1-14, 29).
Hebrews 10:5-10
5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:
Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.
7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.
8 Previously saying, Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.[b] He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
John 1:1-14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth .
John 1:29
29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
Acts 4:12
12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other Name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.
It really is not as complicated as it might sound.
It's actually quite simple.
We are sinners by nature. For this reason we sin.
We fall short of God's glory as a result of our sin.
God sent His Son, born of a virgin to pay the wages of our sin through His sacrificial death on our behalf.
This redeeming act frees all from the eternal consequence of sin, who by faith accept and receive what Christ did for us.
As a result, our sins no longer come between us and God, we are thus born again, we are new creations in Christ, and partake of eternal life, instead of eternal death.
Jesus Christ imparts eternal life to us spiritually in exchange for our eternal death so that when we die, we will live forever in His Presence and Kingdom.
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tbh, what bothers me more is the "why have you forsaken me?"...surely a much more grievous denouncement and lack of faith in God than Moses hitting the stone twice, and he was punished, imo, severely.
God's incarnation was a bio-soup with the same chemical ups and downs as anyone else, though he possessed the best genes possible at that point in human evolution I'd assume, being the vessel of God and all. Some people have better control of their words and thoughts, better restraint, a higher pain tolerance. He was the epitome of that, and as for intellect he was a magician with logic and words in practice.
But what is sin? How do you define sin? You could accidentally step on an ant and kill it and you've sinned and for all eternity your soul is damned? I think not. Through Him all sins are removed.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
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Let's take religion out of the equation. Human beings are physiologically incapable of fully cooperating within society without war, without crime, without hatred. We can't, "not sin".
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Sep 6th, 2013 at 12:25 AM
Why do you suppose so? As unrealistic as world peace may be within the foreseeable future, "physiologically incapable" is quite the absolute turn of phrase. Furthermore, I interpret "sin" to be an individual rather than collective judgment.
I mean, even if being absolutely free of sin is effectively impossible, the ridiculous Christian idea that all human beings are sinful bastards is...quite pessimistic and demeaning. Especially given the contradictory sophistry that "evil is merely the absence of good", which suggests that being an otherwise good person with some bad spots should be interpreted as being good, but not infinitely good, rather than evil, but not infinitely evil. Yet the "even the tiniest sin makes you evil" bit sort of contradicts the good/evil - hot/cold analogy commonly parroted by apologists.
My point was that this entire world we live in is unfair, I'd imagine any human being can understand that concept.
In order for there to be a perfect system, there most once have been an imperfect system. Apply that to the paradoxical concept of infinity; a concept in which God, by very definition, entails. The only way God can experience is in the imperfect system, as an imperfect and temporary consciousness. There's also a duality between God and all temporary consciousnesses. Apropos, aggregate consciousness (God the Holy Spirit: the Omni-consciousness) happens when existence can no longer experience (death of temporary consciousness); going to a place without time, without space, experiencing all time and space, all possible or impossible realities simultaneously and therefore collapsing to all desirable experience and nothing besides. For eternity.
Jesus told us everything we needed to know. We are all children of God because the Holy Spirit resides within all of us, Jesus just has the purpose of Messiah. His lifetime influenced or set in motion a series of events that will result to keeping consciousness in this cosmos for as long as necessary. Perhaps by keeping us from destroying ourselves for evolution, perhaps by causing some - but not total - destruction to stall evolution. If one existence occurs that is without consciousness, the equation is set off, without an observer there is no infinity for collective consciousness. See the zeroth and tenth dimension, and refer to what happens when you do: 0 - 1. It's no longer zero because at least one thing (life) is proven impossible.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
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That's not true. The Holy Spirit does not reside in all of us. He only resides in those who are born again i.e. believers.
John 14:16-20
16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him ; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
That's not true. The Holy Spirit does not reside in all of us. He only resides in those who confess Jesus as Lord i.e. those who are born again, His followers, His disciples, Christians believers.
1 John 4:15
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
John 14:16-20
16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
I believe in one thing; collective consciousness, that is, consciousness perceiving all consciousnesses by virtue of not perceiving existence through location and duration but perceiving all possible pasts-presents-futures and all possible heres-inbetweens-theres simultaneously. All other facts are subject to change because nothing is impossible; apropos, nothing hasn't happened.
Not to say predictions and guidelines (in Biblical texts) aren't providential here. In fact, the largest modern religion - Hinduism - does give a perspective very parallel to the aforementioned belief. If we are being viewed remotely by a consciousness that can affect us (and Super-string Theory has suggested this very possibility as being likely); than it is possibly providence. However, if such a thing is influencing wave functions to the accuracy of predicting events, why do we suffer? Perhaps it's attempting to reenact its own birth? And that would mean things like the Bible are the word of God, directly from the collective consciousness, from the "Prime Mover".
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
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Upon death; you become a zero, nothing. You get what the universe was birthed in, you get the thing without space or time. You become the Prime Mover.
You'll see Him, you'll know Him, because you won't be you anymore, you'll be Him.
What Jesus says is that He must liberate you from sin if you are to enter heaven. How can that be if everyone goes to heaven? Because, given the aforementioned belief, there's a duality of truth here. If you are the collective consciousness than you define what perfection is: And so your perspective will not include the infinite imperfections, the infinite sins; You'll only see infinite perfections. No one will have sinned. Everyone will be from their sins, liberated.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Sep 6th, 2013 at 06:46 AM
My core belief is the result of one paradox: If something doesn't exist; than it is nothing: So therefore; all things exist because, by very definition, nothing doesn't exist.
It's a trippy abstraction when you think about it, nothingness is a lack of reality. So nothing isn't real.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Sep 6th, 2013 at 07:11 AM
I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty and here you are preaching for Satan. Shame on you.
In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning.
He would know that barbaric human sacrifice is immoral.
You do too. Right?
Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to prove it's benevolence.
When you die, Satan will ask you; How was your ticket to heaven purchased? With innocent blood?
Since you're ignoring my main theological hypothesis, relating to the interchangeability between the 0th and the 10th dimension - and what significance that holds on the subject in question, I'll let you duke it out with JIA. I'm not in the mood to go off on your little side-tangent.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Sep 6th, 2013 at 06:32 PM
God was a human being just like you and I at that time. There was no way for Him to perceive the full extent or even comprehend what God was. He was scourged more severely than any other criminal being punished at that time, to the point that the epidermis surrounding His torso was shredded, and the fascia and muscle surrounding His ribs were ripped up as well, so as to see the white of bone. His grievous wounds were confirmed with physical evidence from the shroud of Turin. He was terrified, He was God with the mind and perception of a human being. He was wholly unable to comprehend what God is or where He was going. He said, "Why have you forsaken me?" Then, "It is accomplished. Into your hands, I commend my spirit." Obviously He needed some solace, some affirmation, He spoke out, and was granted solace and affirmation.
__________________ "Compounding these trickster aspects, the Joker ethos is verbally explicated as such by his psychiatrist, who describes his madness as "super-sanity." Where "sanity" previously suggested acquiescence with cultural codes, the addition of "super" implies that this common "sanity" has been replaced by a superior form, in which perception and processing are completely ungoverned and unconstrained"
Last edited by KillaKassara on Sep 6th, 2013 at 06:52 PM
No. At death you either ascend into Heaven or you descend into Hell.
2 Corinthians 5:6-9
6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. 7 For we walk by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord .
Luke 16:22-23
22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Everyone does not go to Heaven, only those who call on the Name of the Lord Jesus for salvation from their sins.
Romans 10:13
For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Revelation 20:11-15
11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
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