Malgus's battlefield feats are unparalleled according to Sidious. Krayt have never impressed Sidious. Heck, even Murr thought little of Krayt. Malgus cut down an opponent of Dooku's caliber when he was young and inexperienced; his progression since then have been nothing short of amazing. Krayt have nothing on Malgus.
Also, from where did you get this funny notion of more powerful era?
TOR era have witnessed largest concentration of powerful Force-users in any single era.
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One of the most pointless statements ever- Sidious was dead for 30 years before Krayt claimed the name, and over a century before Krayt conquered the galaxy.
And Krayt conquered the galaxy.
Not true, Muur thought that Krayt would be an extremely good host due to Krayt's strength in the dark side and preferred him to any of the others present. Muur did think he was better, but that's all.
Krayt also gained a lot of power due to his confrontation with Muur, and Muur was at a level where even Vader thought taking the talisman would be a huge boost. Muur's stronger than Malgus.
Also, Andeddu assumed he was better than these new-fangled Sith then got smacked down in a one-sided battle by Krayt's second in command in his own speciality. Trash talk by people who haven't actually seen someone fight has it's limits.
Its not a pointless statement. Sidious's assessment covers enormous span of galactic history during which many remarkable Sith Lords have risen and influenced galactic events. You think that Krayt is a standout among all of his predecessors?
When circumstances favored his rise.
Krayt failed to make a big impact in time periods involving heavy competition otherwise.
I heard otherwise. Muur thought better of Vader then Krayt.
What kind of power he gained from his confrontation with Muur?
Also, I am not convinced by the declaration that Muur is stronger then Malgus.
I am not asserting that Krayt is a weakling; he is undoubtedly a powerful Force-user. However, Malgus have set the bar too high for him.
Krayt is probably more skilled, has more knowledge and is arguably faster, while Malgus is more powerful, physically stronger and has better pain endurance.
Something makes me think Krayt isn't that much faster than Malgus so that he'd gain a winning advantage. That said, Krayt's dark transfer is a large advantage in this fight.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
IMO Malgus's power cancels out Krayt's skill. Malgus's power did allow him to take down a master of all 7 forms of lightsaber combat in Kao Cen Darach, despite Darach obviously possessing more skill. Then you have Malgus gaining more combat experience against jedi from the war, and the amp he received, plus his natural growth in power. Krayt , however, does have mastery over dark transfer, which can be used to lethal effect. However Malgus has mastery over the force maelstrom, a prerequisite to the deadliest force ability ever, the Force Storm. Ultimately, this is how I see it:
Sabers: Malgus Barely
Force: Krayt Barely
All out: Malgus in an incredibly close fight. TBH it's probably a split.
__________________ ”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”
Trash talk from a Sith is always Dun Moch, and should always be taken with a grain of salt. Ragnos called Jaden - "a mere jedi child" - and still got his ass handed to him.
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Iboga chose not to fight, to allow himself to evolve. He had the wisdom to abandon the actions of war when he knew they would no longer serve him.
Considering he conquered the galaxy and accomplished more than all but a few sith, yes, certainly.
Sidious's predecessors never mentioned Sidious as one of the strongest, and for the exact same reason.
I will note that Darth Andeddu was noted as a standout by Dooku for the power of his sorcery and for being so feared during his time in the ancient Sith Empire, and Darth Andeddu lost to Wyyrlok, who in turn is weaker than Krayt.
The circumstance of a strong Jedi order and a stable Galactic Alliance, before he acted.
He made his circumstances. He caused the fall of the Jedi and for the galaxy to turn against the Alliance and to the Empire, which he then took.
Are you criticizing Krayt for not having a big impact in eras he wasn't in? I will note Malgus had zero impact on the KotoR era or Clone Wars era.
Krayt even before his era proper fought the Abeloth and was considered powerful by Luke (too powerful to be one of the Lost Tribe of the Sith, who did put up a fight against many of Luke's order). In his own era, when he was ready to strike, he destroyed half the Jedi and conquered the galaxy. The primary reason there are not more Jedi is because he and his Sith killed them. Also, Jedi and Sith from the past kept popping up to fight him, to add to the competition beyond his own Jedi and Imperial Knight foes.
His impact in his era surpasses Malgus's during his.
He never compared them. Though, Muur has great healing power, and Vader's the chosen one. Of course a healthy (or at least, healthier, don't think he could do limbs but he could at least heal up most of the burns) Vader would be better, healthy chosen one >> everyone.
Oh, you aren't too familiar with Krayt, are you?
For the last century or so, Krayt had been infected by Vong growths, and constantly had to fight against him, limited his force power by requiring constant effort. Upon his encounter with Muur, he was not only freed of the Vong growths thanks to Muur's healing, but combining what he saw of Muur's technique with the knowledge of the immortal Sith Andeddu and of Cade Skywalker's healing technique he was able to pass through death and self-resurrect using the dark transfer technique, gaining knowledge through the passage itself.
Upon his revival, his return was felt across the entire galaxy, and when he fought Cade he placed his hand on him and then killed and resurrected him on the spot.
In short, when Muur actually fought Krayt, it was Krayt hindered by the implants. Upon his resurrection not only was Krayt unleashed at his full, but had learned the mastery over life and death that prior sith like Palpatine so wanted.
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