Vos got his ass kicked by Cad Bane a non force sensitive. Beating Vos isn't that hard to do.
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Mace has mastered the 7 forms, disarmed Sidious, sparred on even grounds with Yoda and Dooku, forced Ventress into retreat, and KO'd Bulq without distractions. All of these are way above Agen.
BUT MACE HAD A MASSIVE AMP UND THE ROTS NOVEL SAYZ HE WAS NO MATCH FOR HIM.
Because Lucas's word is to be taken seriously!
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^Lul, even if we take that out, sparring with the likes of Dooku and Yoda evenly are leaps and bounds away from Agen. Mace pwns Vos in seconds then takes Bulq in a decent fight.
Are you serious? Mace beats Bulq and sends Ventress into retreat in that comic. What's more he's stated multiple times to be the equal of the good Count, we all know how Dooku has humiliated people on Ventress' and Sora's calibre.
Which, per a Fact file, required him to utilize all of his skill.
Dooku is not considerably above duelists of Sora's calibre either.
Dooku never humiliated Ventress through sheer lightsaber combat, and while he did so to Sora, that just means Dooku is better than Mace is, thus rendering your comparison between Mace and Dooku useless.
You can't just say he's marginally above them dawg? That might save you a lot of time replying to stuff you've argued before. I was done riding Mace's chocolate train a long time ago, Talzin made him look like a ***** ya feel me brutha?
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
The point we're discussing isn't whether Mace is her superior or not; we already know that. It's by how much he's superior that is important, and as the Fact file confirms, it's not by an amount that defines ''way above''.
Yup, pretty impressive kick there.
He only casually beat her in the last video, which was right at the start of her training.
Again, no one's saying he isn't better than Agen, Sora, Asajj etc., it's the amount of difference we're talking about.
That has nothing to do with a Saber fight. And Mace has greater force feats than Maul/Savage anyway. (Completely crushing 2 Destroyer droids with a Force Blast, Deflecting Sidious's FL, and that's not even counting the CW Mini cartoon).
Also Dooku has fought off Ventress plus 2 nightsisters while drugged and blind. Dooku has also danced around Ventress and Savage together, flooring Ventress a couple of times in the process.
So yeah Dooku is above Ventress in every way, and by a large margin. Can she put up a fight? Sure. But a pretty short one if it's one on one.
Key word there is combined. I've not argued Mace has greater force powers than Maul and Savage combined.
And if you count the CW Mini then Mace has done that to hundreds of droids.
I don't remember Mace struggling with that feat at all. And we don't know the exact weight of the AT-TE in comparison to those shttules. The AT-TE is a tank so might be heavier.
Still doesn't compare to Mace completely crushing Destroyer droids, and deflecting Sidious's FL.
If your arguing that Sidious could TK Mace around, then that's probably true. Although it's harder to do such a thing mid-saber combat, when Mace is putting Sidious under pressure.
That's questionable. The shuttle's are longer, but do not have the same depth to them. And the weight will depend on what they're carrying. Also I don't remember Mace struggling.
Again none of Maul/Savage's feats compares to Crushing Destroyer droids or Deflecting Sidious's FL.
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