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Darth Truculent
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Revan's Sith Empire vs Sidious's Galactic Empire

Who wins this all out war? Revan has access to the Star Forge and his apprentice Malak. Sidious has the Death Star and Vader. Discuss.


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You've been here long enough to know that there's no civilization in galactic history that is known to be able to match the Enpire in tech. and numbers.


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Well, back in Revan's day, the Republic wasn't anywhere near the unchallenged hyperpower of the late republic/empire. In fact, it was still expanding and the Old Sith Wars more or less eliminated all competition at the cost of nearly destroying the Republic and IMHO being more thorough in wiping out the Jedi order.

So basically what you have is a Superpower whose atleast one extraordinarily powerful factory in regionsthat they will soon findout is less the unknown as they previously thought.

The only hope they have is being sneaky about this and capturing some Star Destroyers. As long as Revan's in charge and can convince Malak to not be a dumbass, the advantage of having an army of Sith Assasins and atleast Sion under his control will allow them to capture some shit and find out WTH has happened.

IF Malak redoes history, then his...methods aren't exactly going to work. at all.

If you give Revan some breathing to figure out what has happened, then this will be a very good fight indeed.


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If you give Revan some breathing to figure out what has happened, then this will be a very good fight indeed. [/B]


He won't get time for some breathing. He and his military forces will get wiped from the face of the Galaxy by superior numbers, technology and probably equal or superior commanders (Thrawn !). The only advantage he has over the Galactic Empire lies in a higher number of Force Users (about 1/3 of the Republic, which might be up to 3000 Sith) and the Star Forge (if one wants to grant him that thing).

Sidious holds a plethora of superweapons and, through history, is familiar with the organisation and weaknesses of Revan's Empire (e.g. location of the Star Forge; Revan's tactics). I don't think that the Star Forge, which can be easily destroyed by the Galactic Empire without having to move into the protective energy field (Death Star, Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher) or some Sith (assassins, warriors, Lords) will make much of a difference here.


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technology ftw.

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He won't get time for some breathing. He and his military forces will get wiped from the face of the Galaxy by superior numbers, technology and probably equal or superior commanders (Thrawn !). The only advantage he has over the Galactic Empire lies in a higher number of Force Users (about 1/3 of the Republic, which might be up to 3000 Sith) and the Star Forge (if one wants to grant him that thing).

Sidious holds a plethora of superweapons and, through history, is familiar with the organisation and weaknesses of Revan's Empire (e.g. location of the Star Forge; Revan's tactics). I don't think that the Star Forge, which can be easily destroyed by the Galactic Empire without having to move into the protective energy field (Death Star, Galaxy Gun, Sun Crusher) or some Sith (assassins, warriors, Lords) will make much of a difference here.
almost all of those super weapons got beaten.

Better idea, what would the rebellion make of having that many resoruces?


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Implosion due to in-fighting at not being able to decide what to do with that many resources.


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Prick.


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Revan's Sith Empire would decimate the Galactic Empire. The Sith Empire with the Star Forge has limitless resources for creating starships. No matter how many super weapons the GE had, it would be an endless onslaught until all of their weapons were destroyed or the GE ran out of resources. Not to mention the Sith Empire had an army of Dark Jedi, the Galactic Empire has two Sith Lords, that's a huge advantage. While the Galactic Empire managed to wipe out almost all of the Jedi, it was done through underhanded tactics, subertfuge and deception instead of through straight up warfare. Darth Revan's Sith Empire nearly wipe out all the Jedi AND the Republic through conventional warfare, something Darth Sidious couldn't do.

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Darth Sidious didn't have to fight the Republic or the Jedi Order, because he usurped one and stealth-murdered the other.

Also, you tell those four year old posts what's for.


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The Galactic Empire rofl stomps. The Star Forge is a technology that pumped out millennia old Ships, and is a sitting target. The Death Star's reactor core is equal to hundreds of Super giant stars, while the Star forge relied on power from just one. The Executor has a power output equal to our Sun. Factories in the Galactic Empire obviously are capable of pumping out as many ships and without the need of a celestial object's power source to help it. The biggest fluff we've ever gotten for the Interdictor ships of Revan's time is that it's equal in firepower to a Victory class star destroyer, which is obsolete compared to the power of an Imperial Star Destroyer. Not to mention most Starships back in the day had a Hyperdrive of a rating of 3 IIRC. Also, not sure but I don't think Revan's time had planetary shields. The guns on an Executor can go up to single digit Exatons of firepower, 1 Exaton can pretty much boil all the oceans off a planet and leave it completely glassed. I think all the Empire really has to do is just jump out of Hyperspace on say, Korriban, and just glass the Sith academy present there.


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The URL in your sig is busted, btw. You can't host images unless they are directly through KMC, sadly.

And Revan probably only has a chance if he spawns a bajillion ships and has them all bumrush the opposition, because lulz.


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I recall that when the Star Forge was at 500% or something equally that high it was only making a dozen ships. I'm probably wrong on that though, does anyone have an exact number how many ships the SF was making? Oh, and TBH I'm too lazy to change my sig, mostly cause I'm not really on here all that much, but thanks anyways.


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No clue myself, and too lazy to find out. This thread is kinda lame.


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The later era ones can match/exceed them in tech, but the GE is the summit in military size.

The GE is one of the strongest of all time, and it's only competitors are the ones that came after.

This is the Revan Empire


This is a map of galactic expansions over time. The Empire is in *purple*. The KotoR is light blue.



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Revan's Sith Empire would decimate the Galactic Empire. The Sith Empire with the Star Forge has limitless resources for creating starships. No matter how many super weapons the GE had, it would be an endless onslaught until all of their weapons were destroyed or the GE ran out of resources


Long-run, sure, it has a never-ending steam... however, it's ships-per-point-in-time is still limited, and the Galactic Empire fleet could destroy it's initial fleet and assault the Star Forge directly.


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Stormtroopers are superior to sith troopers in every way especially the veteran clones, Sidious's Inquisitorious, Hands, shadow guard, and dark acolyte programs are superior to the dark jedi. The Death Star is superior to the star forge. And vader can easily kill malak like killing a jedi on kessel. Vader can also kill revan. Palpatines empire would win


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Stormtroopers are superior to sith troopers in every way especially the veteran clones, Sidious's Inquisitorious, Hands, shadow guard, and dark acolyte programs are superior to the dark jedi. The Death Star is superior to the star forge. And vader can easily kill malak like killing a jedi on kessel. Vader can also kill revan. Palpatines empire would win
sith asassins are weak also

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Originally posted by The Merchant
I recall that when the Star Forge was at 500% or something equally that high it was only making a dozen ships. I'm probably wrong on that though, does anyone have an exact number how many ships the SF was making? Oh, and TBH I'm too lazy to change my sig, mostly cause I'm not really on here all that much, but thanks anyways.


You see it producing hundred of starfighters at a time IIRC... I'll look for a clip.

GE wins though.

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