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Revan and HOT run the Gauntlet
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Kotor3
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Revan and HOT run the Gauntlet

Boss Vitiate
Location where Vitiate fought Revan.

Full Rest after each battle.
ROTS Obi wan and Anakin
Traya and SF Malak
Dooku and Maul
Kun and Ulic
ANH Vader and Starkiller
Bane and Zannah

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clear.

edit: never mind, probably go down at bane/zannah.


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clear.

edit: never mind, probably go down at bane/zannah.


So, if Bane and Zannah were not in the thread you feel they would take Vitiate?

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They have a chance at beating Bane and Zannah, though nowhere near as much as they do with beating everyone else.

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So, if Bane and Zannah were not in the thread you feel they would take Vitiate?


Yep.

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So I guess that means you feel Bane and Zannah can take on Vitiate. I guess that would be a possibility.

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That's not what that necessarily means, actually. Bane and Zannah would be vunerable to Vitiate's mindrape, for instance. Revan and the HoT are both immune, from what we know.

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Zannah and Bane should be powerful enough to resist it, like the HoT was In the dark temple.

That said: yeah, I think bane and zannah can take vitiate.


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That's not what that necessarily means, actually. Bane and Zannah would be vunerable to Vitiate's mindrape, for instance. Revan and the HoT are both immune, from what we know.


Good point.

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Zannah and Bane should be powerful enough to resist it, like the HoT was In the dark temple.

That said: yeah, I think bane and zannah can take vitiate.


I do not see either being more powerful than Revan when it comes to will power and Revan had to prepare himself.

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Zannah and Bane should be powerful enough to resist it, like the HoT was In the dark temple.

That said: yeah, I think bane and zannah can take vitiate.

The HoT had already been under Vitiate's control, however; neither Bane nor Zannah have met, let alone been under, Vitiate's mind domination.

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True. But when it specifically notes that he was too powerful to be dominated, it implies something different. With Revan however, the novel explicitly states that he had to develop a countermeasure for the mental assault. Evidently there's two ways to resist it, and bane and zannah are powerful enough to do so.


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The HoT was under Vitiate's control for a few weeks-months. He only needs to stop them for minutes. erm

Bane struggled with Zannah's illusions during their fight. I don't doubt that they have the power, even Revan broke his mind domination on his own, I doubt that they have the time.

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True. But when it specifically notes that he was too powerful to be dominated, it implies something different. With Revan however, the novel explicitly states that he had to develop a countermeasure for the mental assault. Evidently there's two ways to resist it, and bane and zannah are powerful enough to do so.


Bane can be argued but you are saying that Zannah is more powerful than Revan?

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I think the mechanics of Vitiate's mind domination are being misunderstood. He cannot mind dominate you and use other powers, he can only divert his attention to that. How do you think Revan knocked Vitiate on his ass?


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Bane can be argued but you are saying that Zannah is more powerful than Revan?


Zannah is just as, if not even more powerful than Bane, where the force is concerned.

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I think the mechanics of Vitiate's mind domination are being misunderstood. He cannot mind dominate you and use other powers, he can only divert his attention to that. How do you think Revan knocked Vitiate on his ass?

Dominate one to attack the other, he mops up the rest. Nah, I know how it works. I've seen few fights talked about as much as Vitiate's.

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...Assuming he will be able to dominate one. Which he won't wink


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Dominate one to attack the other, he mops up the rest. Nah, I know how it works. I've seen few fights talked about as much as Vitiate's.


That's the problem, though.

The notion that Viti's mindhaxx is effortless has been utterly debunked by narration and Word of God and my own unassailable arguments. Even assuming that Viti can mindhaxx someone of Bane's caliber in combat, it's likely going to require immense focus and diversion of power, which leaves him vulnerable to attacks from Bane or Zannah.

It's not going to happen. erm

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Zannah is just as, if not even more powerful than Bane, where the force is concerned.


Not to make this a separate discussion but I do not agree.

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