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Dexx
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force disturbance error!
I early realized that Palpatine could in fact be darth Sidious. Later on i knew.....with the help of other fellows who thought the same.
But why didn't anyone sence him?
Qui Gon....or Obi. According to the wise jedi concillor Yoda :" Hard to see the dark side is". But that's to unclear.
The same question could be on why couldn't Vader sence Leia.
I hope this question isn't already asked
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May 7th, 2002 05:17 PM |
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Edna Witch
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Hmmmm not exactly trivia. Moving this to the ep IV-VI,I forum.
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May 7th, 2002 06:23 PM |
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Ushgarak
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It;s not really unclear nopw, is it? The Dark Side is difficult to spot.
Besides, I think you assume too much of force sensing, What do you expect that Vader should have been able to sense in Leia?
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May 7th, 2002 09:55 PM |
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Dexx
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Location: Bucharest, Romania
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Qui Gon and Obi senced anakin since they landed on tatooine, even if the boy was not trained in the jedi arts. So why wouldn't Vader sence Leia, She's his daughter.
I guess that ep. 2 will answer my question about darth sidious.
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May 8th, 2002 04:14 AM |
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yerssot
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errr... OB1 DIDN'T sensed Anakin, QGJ DIDN'T sense Anakin, he knew he was "special", thanks to that quick reflex and the midichlorian count he knew it all
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May 8th, 2002 12:23 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Indeed. What makes you think they sensed Anakin?
Again, you are overestimating qhat these people can sense.
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May 8th, 2002 05:13 PM |
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Dexx
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Location: Bucharest, Romania
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Don't u remember when the Nubian landed on Tatooine?
Qui Gon said: " Be weary! I feel a disturbance in the force."
And Obi replied: " I feel it also master"
This disturbance in the force must have been Anakin
It couldn't have been Darth Maul
maul was encountered after that too....but without the jedi feeling him.
even though they senced him...they didn't know it's him. (Anakin)
It's not quite like between immortals.
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May 8th, 2002 05:39 PM |
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Ushgarak
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That's the Phantom Menace they are sensing, the general danger to the galaxy.
It is NOT Anakin they sensed there, unless you also think Obi-Wan was sensing Anakin when he had similar misgivings at the start of the film.
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May 8th, 2002 07:03 PM |
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yerssot
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yup, they basicly sense something is all wrong not that they specificly sense someone, a boy...
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May 8th, 2002 07:10 PM |
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Dexx
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Location: Bucharest, Romania
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it's not that simple.
At the beggining of the film , obi's missgivings were corrected by Qui Gon. When they landed they both senced it. I still think that what they senced was Anakin....the chosen one, the one that will bring ballance. 
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May 8th, 2002 07:18 PM |
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Ushgarak
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But then, as you say, it makes absolutely no sense that Vader could not sense Leia, or that no-one could sense Palpatine. You present this as an error; it is not, because you have fallously assumed that you can sense force people just like that.
Qui-Gon did not correct Obi-Wan, he simply told him to focus on the present.
At no point were they sensing anyone specific.
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May 8th, 2002 07:23 PM |
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Dexx
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Location: Bucharest, Romania
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I didn't mean the "error" xept as a joke. That was the first thing that came to me. Unimportant. However, Vader not sencing LEia, well that may very well be a script "error" cause it really can't be explained. There are a few ilogic answers is SW for there are a few ilogic questions. What's the little ladder on luke's x wing starfighter for? Answer that 
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May 8th, 2002 07:30 PM |
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Ushgarak
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It's not a script error in the slightest unless you provide a reason as to why he should have been able to sense anything from Leia.
As the fact that he didn't sense anything is canonical, your thinking must be in error.
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May 8th, 2002 07:37 PM |
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yerssot
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that ladder is to climb on his X-wing, I take...
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May 8th, 2002 07:41 PM |
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Dexx
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Bucharest, Romania
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i think u'r taking it to seriously. What do u mean why Vader should have been able to sence Leia....she's only his daughter!.....even though she's not trained in the jedi arts.
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May 8th, 2002 07:41 PM |
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Ushgarak
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So what if she is his daughter? Should he have a magical daughter sense?
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May 8th, 2002 07:46 PM |
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Dexx
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Bucharest, Romania
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yup....i'm talking about darth pixie fairy and sons.
darth lolly pop and his magical daughters.
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May 8th, 2002 07:54 PM |
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yerssot
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and you all call me wacko 
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May 8th, 2002 07:56 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKCo-Admin
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Good job Vader had a happy ending circuit installed as well, or there could have been a lot of trouble...
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May 8th, 2002 08:00 PM |
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Dexx
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Bucharest, Romania
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i never said i wasn't a wacko 
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