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Asajj Ventress and ROTJ Luke vs. TPM Maul and TCW Kenobi

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Maul > Asajj, Kenobi > Luke imo

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I'd say ROTJ Luke is at least better than Asajj


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They should be close enough imo, granted there are contradicting sources regarding if Luke or Vader held back in their fight. Ventress should at least be as skillfull in forcing Mace to fight hard with her and beating Kit Fisto


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Maul and Kenobi, high diff

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Maul might be able to Solo, TPM Maul took on Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan and won, Qui Gon was as good if not better than Ventress, ROTJ Luke really isn't much better than TPM Kenobi.

I dunno, he might solo, but it's an easy team 2 win if he can't.


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It could go either way, Asajj shouldn't be underestimated (defeated Kit Fisto and Luminara Unduli) but TPM Maul and post-AotC Kenobi seems to me a better tactical team, 7 of 10 - team 1.


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In terms of skill they're all more or less even, and I don't see much combative use of telekinesis. Luke's "potential" may allow him to perform better on the day, as it did when he was able to perfectly mirror Vader's fighting style.

Maul's saberstaff is something that could throw Luke off, though, as Lumiya's lightwhip did (but probably to a lesser degree). Overall I say just flip a coin on this one.


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Welcome to the forum I like swords.

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Thanks! Yeah. SW debating seems more active over here so I thought I'd give it a shot. I think I know you but I can't quite place it.


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Thanks! Yeah. SW debating seems more active over here so I thought I'd give it a shot. I think I know you but I can't quite place it.


There are some huge EU fanboys here moreso than at Comicvine, you'll know when you see them. Beware, you have been warned big grin


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Erkan is also here under the name of Marco with some numbers following, be careful.

I kinda connected that dot already, LOL. Didn't know he had a following, though.

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Mainly due to his Darth Krayt thread, it was kind of obvious to other users when he started posting stuff like VADER IS SLOW


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Maul might be able to Solo, TPM Maul took on Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan and won, Qui Gon was as good if not better than Ventress, ROTJ Luke really isn't much better than TPM Kenobi.

Both on Team 2 are above Qui-Gon and TPM Obi-Wan. They might even be TPM Maul level, honestly, Luke being the only iffy one.

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ROTJ Luke is the weak link Imo. Even for those who believe he legitimately beat down Vader, I don't think anyone denies Vader could have easily overpowered Luke with TK had he wanted. Of course Vader has >>> Tk than anyone here, still all the other combatants have been fully trained and are experienced in using Tk.

TCW Kenobi is the strong link here (assuming it's late in the Clone wars). He is on par with TCW Maul, and TCW Maul > TPM Maul.

So yeah, definitely team 2 for me.

But for the record, if this is Late Clone War Ventress, then I think Ventress vs Maul here would be pretty even.

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ROTJ Luke is the weak link Imo. Even for those who believe he legitimately beat down Vader, I don't think anyone denies Vader could have easily overpowered Luke with TK had he wanted. Of course Vader has >>> Tk than anyone here, still all the other combatants have been fully trained and are experienced in using Tk.

TCW Kenobi is the strong link here (assuming it's late in the Clone wars). He is on par with TCW Maul, and TCW Maul > TPM Maul.

So yeah, definitely team 2 for me.

But for the record, if this is Late Clone War Ventress, then I think Ventress vs Maul here would be pretty even.


Luke didn't legitimately beat Vader, but he did legitimately fight him as an equal in terms of skill. He should be better than Maul and Kenobi, while Ventress is Obi-Wan's equal (and more powerful in my opinion).

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Luke didn't legitimately beat Vader, but he did legitimately fight him as an equal in terms of skill. He should be better than Maul and Kenobi, while Ventress is Obi-Wan's equal (and more powerful in my opinion).


In Sabers perhaps, but Vader definitely completely held back on Luke with his Tk.

Otherwise it's like saying Pre-Viszla is a good challenge for Maul, despite the fact that Maul didn't once use any Tk on him.

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Luke didn't legitimately beat Vader, but he did legitimately fight him as an equal in terms of skill. He should be better than Maul and Kenobi, while Ventress is Obi-Wan's equal (and more powerful in my opinion).


In Sabers perhaps, but Vader definitely completely held back on Luke with his Tk.

Otherwise it's like saying Pre-Viszla is a good challenge for TCW Maul, and just ignoring the fact that Maul didn't once use any Tk on him.

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