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carthage
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She bested both Fisto and Koon, and a source states that Windu had to use all of her skill to put her down.

She is at the top of tier 8, and has already shown herself to at least be superior to either duelist. She'd be a greater challenge to either Kenobi or Maul.


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Did she beat Koon? When? And yeah, she bested Fisto after an equal fight. But on the other hand, she might become stronger since that time - unlike Fisto.

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Well no ones saying she's above Malgus, Krayt or Katarn, just on their level.

She'd stomp Saba, so....

Honestly if you put Malak at too of tier 7, she's bottom of 8. He was considered Revans inferior in every way when she was his equal, and to be honest, what has Revan done that she hasn't? He beat Malak, she beat Atris. Atris > Malak.

While yes a lot of her stuff is hype (Mastering every form etc) she killed Atris, Traya, fought hundreds of assassins, Gand, Bounty Hunters, Sion 6 times, a legion of the most elite Dark Jedi in the triumvirates employ, and many more.

Like let's be honest here. She fought a Storm beast whose strength was immense, 160 Sith assassins (I've counted) Sith Commandos, Dark Jedi, Sion and more beasts. All of these amped by a Nexus, a nexus that made her physically Ill. She then went on and killed a being more powerful than her.

That series of feats is above anything Katarn has done, and well above Malak...


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He had a broken arm granted, but she drove him back, kicked him, and pinned him down.


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Did she beat Koon? When? And yeah, she bested Fisto after an equal fight. But on the other hand, she might become stronger since that time - unlike Fisto.


I thought Koon had a broken arm...

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With a broken arm, he disarmed her from one saber. I would say, that he was the one who had an advantage.

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Well no ones saying she's above Malgus, Krayt or Katarn, just on their level.

She'd stomp Saba, so....

Honestly if you put Malak at too of tier 7, she's bottom of 8. He was considered Revans inferior in every way when she was his equal, and to be honest, what has Revan done that she hasn't? He beat Malak, she beat Atris. Atris > Malak.

While yes a lot of her stuff is hype (Mastering every form etc) she killed Atris, Traya, fought hundreds of assassins, Gand, Bounty Hunters, Sion 6 times, a legion of the most elite Dark Jedi in the triumvirates employ, and many more.

Like let's be honest here. She fought a Storm beast whose strength was immense, 160 Sith assassins (I've counted) Sith Commandos, Dark Jedi, Sion and more beasts. All of these amped by a Nexus, a nexus that made her physically Ill. She then went on and killed a being more powerful than her.

That series of feats is above anything Katarn has done, and well above Malak...


I'll honestly let you sort all that out with Ant. stick out tongue

I also need more input on tier 7


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carthage if that's a lightsaber skill only list, then Savage isn't top tier 7. His strength is a big part of his fighting ability, not so much raw skill. He'd be tier 6 in terms of raw skill, but higher up on the overall list.


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I'll have to make any and all edits after we all finally agree on a list. But ok ILS


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And about Meetra and Revan - Meetra considered Revan as her superior, Kreia considered Revan as her finest pupil. Meetra - along with Scourge was driven back by Darth Nyriss alone. I doubt, that Revan would lose to Nyriss.

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Revans been ranked for the most part, if there is no objection to Surik I guess she's going to tier 8. Still waiting for Ant's input on that (or anyones)

Still need more input for tier 7. If not I'm going to tier 6.


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What do you need my input on?


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So revan is overall tier 9? Only luke would be above him correct?

Nihilus should also be tier 10 as he could kill luke in 1v1


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Honestly if you put Malak at too of tier 7, she's bottom of 8. He was considered Revans inferior in every way when she was his equal, and to be honest, what has Revan done that she hasn't? He beat Malak, she beat Atris. Atris > Malak.

While yes a lot of her stuff is hype (Mastering every form etc) she killed Atris, Traya, fought hundreds of assassins, Gand, Bounty Hunters, Sion 6 times, a legion of the most elite Dark Jedi in the triumvirates employ, and many more.

Like let's be honest here. She fought a Storm beast whose strength was immense, 160 Sith assassins (I've counted) Sith Commandos, Dark Jedi, Sion and more beasts. All of these amped by a Nexus, a nexus that made her physically Ill. She then went on and killed a being more powerful than her.


Is The Exile above Malak?


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Originally posted by McP
And about Meetra and Revan - Meetra considered Revan as her superior, Kreia considered Revan as her finest pupil. Meetra - along with Scourge was driven back by Darth Nyriss alone. I doubt, that Revan would lose to Nyriss.


Uhh what?

Firstly that's Meetra's personality, and second Kreia actually viewed the Exile as her strongest pupil.

As for Nyriss, terrible argument, lol, try again.

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@Carthage: Nope, Malak is above the Exile.


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Originally posted by carthage
Is The Exile above Malak?


She's much much superior, yes.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nope, Malak is above the Exile.


What?

What is this betrayal.

Dafuq Ant, like, how could even you believe that?

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Better [SPOILER - highlight to read]: combat feats.
I always supported Malak over the Exile, mother.


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Originally posted by Selenial
I thought Koon had a broken arm...


He did.

And yet, he managed to disarm her of one of her weapons. Ventress only did so well because Koon had a broken arm.

And that whole pinning thing, she pressed him against a railing of a narrow walkway. Congratulations...

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