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The way I see it, the trio can likely hold him off in most areas, and he's going to tire out faster matching multiple people in multiple areas, but if the situation is broken in some way and one element is disrupted, the the other two elements are in a fair amount of trouble. Worror's concentration being disrupted would make things much harder, though not necessarily impossible. If Raskta went down, then he'll slice up the other two, and if Farfalla goes down, he'll take out Raskta with the force.
This would be easy for him, the manner in which he blasted away a much more competent Strike Team is very telling. And we are assuming a scenario not restricted by PIS.
I don't see how the Jedi can cope with Malgus's maelstrom powers.
Also, if Worror performs BM or have the chance to do so, then only 2 Jedi are left to handle Malgus. However, Malgus's maelstrom powers would do the trick of overwhelming all Jedi simultaneously.
Against Bane, there were 5 Jedi in total. While Worror performed BM, 4 could concentrate on Bane. But Zannah also joined and this left Bane with 3. He then blasted all Jedi away from him and approached Worror who was saved by another Jedi at this moment. But with BM disrupted, Jedi fell like fodder.
Malgus developed a solution for tackling multiple combatants simultaneously: maelstrom powers.
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Malgus, as Emperor, have maelstrom powers, and numerous feats of overwhelming powerful opponents with his raw power. In addition, his lightning powers can overcome even lightsaber augmented defenses of the opponents.
Bane is lacking in comparison, Bane's most powerful wave did not even budge Kas'im from his position. And his lightning powers could be also contained with lightsaber augmented defenses.
Also, this Strike Team have 3 members, not 5.
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His maelstrom won't overwhelm opponents who weathered Bane's force attacks. Raskta was able to block Bane's lightning, which is superior to Malgus', so he'll have no luck there.
Kas'im was only hit by a portion of the wave. The wave which destroyed the massive temple on Lehon which is a TK feat surpassing all of Malgus'. He's also utterly disintegrated people with his lightning (and TK), which is better than what Malgus has accomplished.
Bane was only engaged by 3 members of the strike team, and later Johun joined in. Judging how Raskta and Farfalla did against Bane with Worror's BM, Malgus would fall to Rastka's superior speed and lightsaber ability.
Maelstrom powers are the precursor to Force Storm (Wormhole) powers, they are so deadly and effective. Bane doesn't have anything remotely close in destructive potential.
Oh, another conjecture.
Malgus have lightning feats of overwhelming the lightsaber augmented defenses of truly powerful opponents. Lsu won't be a problem for him.
Please don't try to impose Bane's limitations on others without valid reasoning.
Does it matter? Malgus did not collapse buildings but he defeated an opponent of such raw power. This is moot point in a debate featuring Malgus.
Force wave is just like that, it covers lot of ground due to its nature. Kas'im managed to protect himself with a standard defensive application. Shame.
Defenses of a Force-user > disintegrating structure
And you are wrong about Bane's superiority over Malgus in raw power aspects; Malgus's feat of sending the entire Strike Team (comprising of some of the most powerful Force-users of the mythos) packing across the hall is much superior display of raw power in comparison. Also, he disintegrated an entire column with a just figure-oriented gesture at this point.
Overwhelming the defenses of a Force-user > defenses of a Force-user > disintegrating structure
Your point is moot.
Lightning does not disintegrates, it burns. Bane disintegrated some Technobeasts with his powers but they had already degraded in a span of many years.
Bane was proficient in use of lightning but he never managed to produce lightning of such intensity that would overwhelm lightsaber-augmented defenses of a powerful opponent. Never.
Malgus is among the few Sith Lords whose lightning powers could overwhelm lightsaber-augmented defenses of a powerful opponent. One reason is that Malgus could channel his emotions into his attacks in exemplary manner, such a state of mind will significantly augment the effectiveness of powers such as lightning.
Your point is moot.
Bane was fighting recklessly. This is why Jedi were upon him.
Malgus not just fights masterfully but he have significantly grown in power as of Emperor. The Strike Team have no answer for his maelstrom powers.
Also, Malgus conjures up a protection bubble for safety while he unleashes maelstrom powers. Good luck touching him in this situation.
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Malgus never used maelstrom against a force user, and it requires a break and intense concentration to summon. He wouldn't stand a chance if he tried to use it here, stop using that pathetic argument.
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Bane never held an edge lol wtf? He never even fought all to them at once? And Malgus's telekinetic showings exceed the ones Bane showed during his duel, he can ragdoll two of them at once
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Oh jesus. Maelstrom is just TK and lightning. Malgus just puts himself in a force bubble and starts throwing objects around and pelts opponents with lightning. Raskta can block that lightning and Farfalla can defend against the thrown objects. Easy.
More like an extremely well-reasoned argument formed from evidence and superior logic. Stop going on about breaking lightsaber defenses. Being able to do that is dependent upon the defenses of the opponent, not just the power of the Sith. Raskta defending against Bane's lightning only proves she can defend against Malgus'.
Bane's lightning is better than Malgus'. Hows that for valid reasoning?
Lawl, that zabrak jedi's feat is utterly incomparable to Bane's in terms of scale and power. Bane far eclipses that showing.
Thats a moot point concerning my argument, bro. It doesn't matter if its due to its nature, Kas'im was only struck by a small part of the wave.
That depends on the force user.
They were caught off guard. Also at most there were only two force users there. And thats still not up to Bane's standards.
I don't recall this.
Terrible reasoning.
Same thing. Bane could incinerate beings to ash with his lightning. Which is better than what Malgus has done. Also Bane disintegrated a dozen, not some.
Which merely speaks of the strength of his opponents, not Bane's weakness.
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Its why Raskta hit him so many times, but it doesn't diminish her effectiveness in dueling him. With the Orbalisks Bane would be able to slaughter most opponents with ease (including Malgus), yet BM Raskta was capable of matching him, putting him on the defensive and almost running rings around him. That's freaking insane.
He's absolutely no match for Raskta in a lightsaber duel bro. Sorry, his maelstrom won't be of much help either.
Malgus would stop after either tiring or judging the attack ineffective after the Jedi counter it. Shame.
Nope Malgus has Bane beaten in most categories from dueling skill, to physical strength, to force ability, etc. None of these opponents are better than Zallow or Leneer, who Malgus dealt with accordingly. The only time Bane comes close to Malgus is with a nexus and his armor
More like an extremely well-reasoned argument formed from evidence and superior logic. Stop going on about breaking lightsaber defenses. Being able to do that is dependent upon the defenses of the opponent, not just the power of the Sith. Raskta defending against Bane's lightning only proves she can defend against Malgus'.
Why would lightning be more important than skill? Aside from that Malgus has superior telekinetic showings to Bane in this duel, not to mention their main fighter can't take powerful telekinetic assaults. Farfalla can't defend her while simultaneously getting destroyed by a force wave that sent a Wrath/Nox/Hero flying. Malgus is still collectively more powerful than the team.
He incinerated beings when being amped by orbalisks, and who cares about lightning? Malgus outskills and is more powerful than anyone on the team
Lawl, Bane was amped by the nexus when he toppled the temple. He never could replicate it, how does it feel to know that a random fodder character has superior telekinetic showings to Darth Bane?
Lol @ Malgus losing to Raskta when she is utterly featless as a duelist, the other opponents aren't offering any help at all. Why would he tire when this team is inferior alone to HoT/Barsen or Nox/Wrath, all of whom Malgus sent flying and dominated with the force. Malgus can take these weaklings
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