Jaggarath
DarthAnt66
Registered: Feb 2013
Location: USA
The Dread Masters vs Darth Vader & Count Dooku
While I'm in the belief the Masters will totally dominate these two, I want to see where they currently stand with you guys. Battle is on Oricon.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
A snippet of my debate with ShootingNova that I wanted to post here:
The Dread Master's are capable of mentally tormenting the entire galaxy: "... the Dread Masters plot to torment the galaxy from their ancient fortress compound."
The Dread Master's dominated a Force-sensitive to insanity who had previously "passed all the psych tests, resisted every mind-altering device and chemical they could find."
The Dread Master's effects are irreparable, even on the highest of prestige: "... minds have been irreparably dominated by the power of the Dread Masters."
The Dread Master's have complete loyalty over their minions, rendering them insane: "Dread Masters have rendered their followers both completely loyal and incurably, paranoically insane."
The Dread Master's continue artifacts beyond Reublic and Imperial understanding: "... a collection of powerful and ancient technologies that lie well outside of our scientific understanding."
The Dread Master's are capable of "inducing widespread terror, paranoia, and hallucinations" on entire planets and Republic fleets, which will be mentioned again later.
The Dread Master's are one of the most powerful threats the Hero of Tython, Darth Nox and the Emperor's Wrath ever faced: "... one of the greatest challenges anyone in our order has faced."
The Dread Master's corruption abilities are so great that they were able to "affect" Oricon, a previously unknown moon, to where it was "immeasurably strong with the dark side."
The Dread Master's power is so great that during their final confrontation in the galaxy, they were regarded as ultimately "the galaxy’s greatest threat."
The Dread Master's have "studied the power of the Phobis devices, artifacts that have driven even the most depraved Sith mad with terror" to complete mastery.
The Dread Master's destroyed "entire Republic fleets during the Great War" and caused dozens of Republic warships to have gone missing" out of the fear and terror.
The Dread Master's have a "immense strength in the Force" and "incredible, unprecedented power over the dark side of the Force" even in the midst of combat situations.
The Dread Master's farsight abilities "of what might come to pass spared the Sith Empire from slave rebellions, Republic ambushes and internal disruptions many times over"
The Dread Master's were capable of compelling "a trio of hardened Republic soldiers to end their own lives by simply talking to them" even while locked in an ancient prison.
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Jan 8th, 2015 11:19 PM
NewGuy01
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lol @Revan>>>Vader+Dooku. You've fallen far from the mudhole you were already in, bro.
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Jan 8th, 2015 11:25 PM
Jaggarath
DarthAnt66
Registered: Feb 2013
Location: USA
I put Revan still on Vader tier, broski. Pretty confused what you're talking about?
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Jan 8th, 2015 11:25 PM
NewGuy01
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Re: The Dread Masters vs Darth Vader & Count Dooku
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I would put the collective force of the Dread Masters the next step below Revan.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
While I'm in the belief the Masters will totally dominate these two, I want to see where they currently stand with you guys. Battle is on Oricon.
Jan 8th, 2015 11:28 PM
Jaggarath
DarthAnt66
Registered: Feb 2013
Location: USA
It's pretty embarrassing you still have the "who is more powerful determines the victor" sense. The Dread Master's major strength is attacking the mind, in which they can do it in so many different ways and powers it is insane. Sources state the Dread Masters locked themselves in the ancient temples of Kaas for years, meditating (against Revan, presumably), but never succeed. Therefore, logic holds Revan can resist these attacks. If he would come face-to-face with the entire collective alone, he'll probably get demolished no shit, but that wasn't what I was referring to. The debate here would be if Vader and Dooku can resist on the same kind of levels Revan would. Try to comprehend.
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Jan 8th, 2015 11:30 PM
Jaggarath
DarthAnt66
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Location: USA
lol @ newguy getting slaughtered
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Jan 8th, 2015 11:33 PM
Angelalex242
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Vader and Dooku have the edge in sabers, and it would take the DMs far too long to overcome their wills while they're having red blades shoved in their guts.
Though as a point of order, just how many Dread Masters are there, anyway?
Jan 8th, 2015 11:53 PM
NewGuy01
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Location: USA
Six.
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Jan 8th, 2015 11:57 PM
The Merchant
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DM's tale this.
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Jan 9th, 2015 12:31 AM
Nephthys
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Merchant
DM's tale this.
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Jan 9th, 2015 12:35 AM
Angelalex242
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6 on 2? Eh. It's mostly because Vader and Dooku are badly outnumbered, and the DMs are tough enough for numbers to matter. They won't survive with all 6 of 'em in tact, though. They'll have casualties.
Jan 9th, 2015 12:53 AM
FreshestSlice
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Nah, each one fights with the strength of all of them combined. They're kind of overrated. Numbers won't matter in the end.
Jan 9th, 2015 12:57 AM
carthage
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nah, each one fights with the strength of all of them combined. They're kind of overrated. Numbers won't matter in the end.
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Jan 9th, 2015 12:59 AM
Angelalex242
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Location: United States
I figured that if the DMs won, it'd take 6 of them, all fighting with the combined strength of all, to take down Vader and Dooku. Add to that that the first time Vader and Dooku manage to kill one, they'll diminish in strength, as their total is now less.
...Comes to that, Vader and Dooku might pull it off on attrition.
Jan 9th, 2015 01:04 AM
The_Tempest
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Location: United States
Re: Re: The Dread Masters vs Darth Vader & Count Dooku
quote: (post ) Originally posted by NewGuy01
quote: Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I would put the collective force of the Dread Masters the next step below Revan.
quote: Originally posted by DarthAnt66
While I'm in the belief the Masters will totally dominate these two, I want to see where they currently stand with you guys. Battle is on Oricon.
Jan 9th, 2015 02:34 PM
S_W_LeGenD
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Registered: Nov 2006
Location: EARTH
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I put Revan still on Vader tier, broski.
Pretty confused what you're talking about?
You rate Revan too low for my tastes. You risk disownage from Revan's fan club.
Jan 9th, 2015 02:38 PM
Jaggarath
DarthAnt66
Registered: Feb 2013
Location: USA
I own the Revan fan club, I do as I please.
Hint: I put Revan on the top of Vader's tier.
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Jan 9th, 2015 03:18 PM
S_W_LeGenD
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I own the Revan fan club, I do as I please.
Hint: I put Revan on the top of Vader's tier.
I have led Revanites long before you came to this forum. Do not test my patience and disturb my peace.
"You will rank Revan above Vader's tier." Waves hand and telepathically put pressure on your mind.
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Jan 9th, 2015 03:53 PM
Lord Stark
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Registered: Jan 2007
Location: Winterfell
quote: (post ) Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You rate Revan too low for my tastes. You risk disownage from Revan's fan club.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I own the Revan fan club, I do as I please.
Hint: I put Revan on the top of Vader's tier.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I have led Revanites long before you came to this forum. Do not test my patience and disturb my peace.
"You will rank Revan above Vader's tier." Waves hand and telepathically put pressure on your mind.
This is distasteful.
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Jan 9th, 2015 03:58 PM
TheDarthBoy
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Hey ant if you put revan above vader as a tier overall which sounds crazy in an awesome way. Does that mean he can beat Caedus in duel or overall fight.
Where would he be as a tiered duelist?
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