BOSS: Jacen Solo (The Swarm wars)/Luke (as of 1st duel with Lumiya)
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Last edited by carthage on Mar 25th, 2015 at 01:03 AM
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IDK, five and beyond beat him though.
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How difficult do you think the first 3 fights are?
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1. Wolf Sazen, Darth Talon, Anoon Bondara
- Wins with ease, any of them can be easily dispatched
2. Eeth Koth, Vodo Siosk Baas, Darth Nihl
- Vodo is the biggest threat here, but again neither Koth nor Nihil have the chops to defend against Dooku's powers.
3. Quinlan Vos, Daegen Lok, IG-88
- Dooku stomps
4. Ven Zallow, Rahm Kota, Darth Nihl
- Dooku wins, Kota charging in as he usually does will result in the same treatment Vader gave him. Nihil and Zallow are no match for Dooku
5. Savage Opress, Plo Koon, Aayla Secura
- Mmmm...this is a hard fight. In an enclosed setting...GG Dooku. But if its an open space with shit to toss around. Dooku secures a victory.
6. Ulic Qel Droma, Jaina Solo
- Probably the duo for the majority.
7. Obi Wan ROTS, Darth Maul SOD
- Solid win for Tyranus, Kenobi is a virtual non-factor as shown by him taking him to the curb twice even with Skywalker as back up.
BOSS: Jacen Solo (The Swarm wars)/Luke (as of 1st duel with Lumiya)
- Dooku'd probably lose to Luke alone.
1. is quite hard, but perhaps doable with proper use of the force.
2. he loses. Vodo is a tough solo fight for Exar Kun, Vodo with good backup is too much for Dooku. Even if he manages to take out one of the other two quick with force (probably Koth, Nihl can take a lot and get back up), he's still in big trouble.
3. he'd definitely win. Force take out IG, he knows Vos's style personal, easier than 1.
4. lose like 2.
5. I think a bit less strong than 2 and 4, but still, victory for the trio. Hard earned and probably with casualties though.
6. Both are dangerous individually, together is way too much.
7. Not as strong as 6, I'd lean to the duo, but Dooku does show surprising ease getting though Kenobi's defense, despite Kenobi's high level.
Q, Dooku would shred all but like 3 of the Legacy era. Not just beat, but shred. Krayt, Wyyrlok, and probably Cade are the only exceptions. Unless they're coming down on him in larger groups than 3-5, I don't see him really struggling with those mooks.
One, I don't see Dooku 'shredding' council level people regardless of era. Beat them, to be sure, but it's not that easy.
Sure, only Krayt, Wyyrlok, and Cade are a good fight one on one, but things don't go from 'good fight one on one' directly down to 'not of much use even in a team of 3, alongside someone stronger' in one step. Council fighters are not mooks.
Two, note how in *zero* cases did I note the Legacy person as a deciding factor. In no case is the legacy fighter more than the second best on the team- well, except for scenario one, and they don't have enough power combined anyway.
Vodo is a tough fight one on one. Throw in two council members- one CW, one Legacy. That's trouble.
Ven Zallow's a good fight for Malgus. Throw in Nihl and Kota on top, again, a tough battle.
Yes, Kenobi is definitely not a non-factor. Dooku was lucky to be able to take out Kenobi with Force in RotS. In the previous encounter Dooku was unable to do it and retreated.
I think Dooku can take 5 but definetely a very hard fight. Dooku has a good chance to handle with Force anyone out of three. But at the same time all three are skilled enough not to be out-dueled easily.
Last edited by Arhael on Mar 25th, 2015 at 01:10 PM
What? Dooku is head over heels above and beyond Kenobi in absolutely every way. I don't think there's ever been even one time when Kenobi demonstrates he can take on Dooku and give him a truly good fight.
You have a funny way of remembering things. Dooku was not on the retreat for that whole fight, he was fighting pretty aggressively and he tossed Kenobi like a pimp tosses a whore who owes him money. He broke his ribs and nearly killed him by kicking him off the ramp. Kenobi was treated as a non-factor by Dooku in that due.
No they aren't Dooku broke Kenobi's ribs and nearly killed him on Oba Dia with no useage of the force. Just his raw combat skills. This is with Skywalker.
I doubt it. Kenobi and Skywalker both know each other's forms inside and out. They have practiced for endless hours of sparring which is why Kenobi knew Anakin's form so well on Mustafar. Their synergy will be FAR superior to Maul and Kenobi.
I didn't say he could defeat him, but Dooku would have to put in a lot of effort to break through his guard.
Kenobi and Anakin were basically tripping over each other. Neither Kenobi or Anakin were on their game. And Dooku using physical strikes is different from him going toe-to-toe with Kenobi in pure swordsmanship. I agree Dooku would defeat him, though.
I don't think he'd need to put a lot of effort into defeating Kenobi, mainly because he never has. Other than the fact that Dooku's the far better duelist and Force user and combatant overall, Kenobi's Soresu is simply not a good match for Dooku's Makashi.
Maul's Tk mastery for instance is quite beastly. Not as good as Dooku's but still very powerful. So I doubt Maul will just have to watch helplessly as Dooku Tk's Kenobi.
Also Maul's a tough combatant for Dooku. Dooku will beat him 1 v 1 but hardly with ease. So fighting off both Kenobi and Maul first, then finishing Kenobi would likely leave a less than 100% Dooku for Maul to face.
I also do feel people underestimate Kenobi's swordsmanship and overall prowess due to his performances against Dooku. End of the day Kenobi stalemated Vader in both ROTS and ANH, and has consistently stalemated Maul as well. And that's on his own. Here he has Maul at his currently known peak fighting alongside him.
Also, lets not forget Kenobi's feats against Maul and Opress together and against Anakin. Yes, Dooku is superior but taking out Kenobi is definitely not an easy task for him and it's definetely not a guaranty that Dooku will be able to take out Kenobi with Force in other circumstances.
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