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Using "retarded" as a perogative is always tasteless, no matter the terms, though.
The word that you couldn't find in your limited dictionary was "unlikely".
We are operating in a fictional realm, comparing opposing forces attacking eachother with attacks fueld by an mystical energy field and you talk about probability?
We have absolutely no idea what Plagueis in the post balance shift state could do in a one on one confrontation, since we don't see him in such circumstances. But now imagine the force wave he used, while injured, to "almost atomize" armed combatants, focused on a single target while in top shape. And I may add: He himself at least believes, that he is more powerful than any Sith before him, while having knowledge about the Sith Emperor. So if we trust his own judgement, he is more powerful than Vitiate pre defeat by the HoT, which is already quite impressive.
While I don't necessarily disagree with your judgement, that doesn't make Neph's argument "retarded". Furthermore: If Plagueis is more powerful than "basic" Vitiate, this could be a hell of a fight.
The aforementioned channeling of raw power against the Maladians directed towards a single target could do quite some damage. And if Plagueis would try to take down Valkorian with his lightsaber, his sheer brute force coupled with his speed may not proof too much for the Eternal Emperor - but it would perhabs be more of a challenge than Arcann's assault against his father.
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I was merely making reference to Sinious's term, hence the quotations surrounding the word. Your insult to my vocabulary was extremely and unnecessarily cruel tho
Well, I'm arguing in the context of feats only, aka what they have specifically shown, not what they're implied to be capable of doing. While I personally believe the feats-only paradigm is flawed, I was asking how, in terms of feats, Plagueis stacks up to the Immortal Emperor. And while his raw power showing against the Maladians was indeed incredible, The Immortal Emperor has honestly shown, in terms of feats, much greater ability in all areas other than telekinesis.
In the very part you quoted, I stated opting to quarrel was pretty "retarded" of me, given that McP's argument being "retarded" depends on how he presents it. I'm not arguing that Plagueis wouldn't realistically provide more of a challenge than Arcann, rather that if we literally take Plagueis's feats at face value and measure him using only those, that he falls decisively short to the Immortal Emperor overall. Then I went on to say that using Plagueis's implications of his capabilities, then yes, the argument that he can fight the Immortal Emperor excellently can and has been made.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Like you, I'm playing Lucifer's Butt-Buddy. I've got Plagueis in my top 3-5 sith. It's just that I find the ways that I've seen others vouch for him to be pretty amusing.
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Yes :/
Even if they wouldn't, the fight isn't good lmfao, that is just ridiculous. RotS Sidious is stated to be > Valk, and TPM Sids and Plagueis aren't far away.
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