Trocity
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sinious
Nah Im pretty sure xtasy would prefer Vader's superiority over Vaylin to hers over him any day tbh.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Lol.
They were feats I thought were comparable to what Vaylin has done, Legend didn't mention em, nor did anyone, so I did.
Guys, we were talking about Legend, not Fated lmao.
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Oct 24th, 2015 12:20 AM
NewGuy01
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Lol, that feat is nothing more than another demonstration of cheap game animations. It's no different than when the Wrath blew away that door.
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Oct 24th, 2015 12:24 AM
FreshestSlice
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Yeah, not really, although I'd like to point out Vaylin doesn't rip the entire generator apart. Just the covering on one side.
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Oct 24th, 2015 12:28 AM
Fated Xtasy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Trocity
Guys, we were talking about Legend, not Fated lmao.
LOL sorry! my bad XD.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lol, that feat is nothing more than another demonstration of cheap game animations. It's no different than when the Wrath blew away that door.
Tis timed tho, and that apparently counts.
Also SWTOR itself is a giant demonstration of cheap animation bud. so meh
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Oct 24th, 2015 12:41 AM
Nephthys
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lol, that feat is nothing more than another demonstration of cheap game animations. It's no different than when the Wrath blew away that door.
Honestly, pretty much. Though I don't agree with the Wrath thing since they do have models for busted up blast doors they could have easily used.
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Oct 24th, 2015 12:43 AM
S_W_LeGenD
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nargaroth
Except that Vader utterly disintegrated a sizable portion of that tower, which is much more impressive than tearing it apart, and there is no indication that he exerted himself much in doing so. The structure being already fractured is irrelevant, because that portion wasn't. And anyway, the tower was big enough to dwarf AT-STs in size. For the record, those walkers are something like 9 or 10 meter high, so that's very impressive.
He may have disintegrated the central segment but it is not realistically portrayed in that animation. Disintegration implies that parts would be scattered on the ground. Fractures made it easier for Darth Vader to disintegrate the central segment, they do matter.
Suppose that you are given the task to split a wooden rod into two parts. If the rod is in fine condition, you will have to exert to break it. If the rod is fractured somewhere (lets say in the middle), you will find it easier to split the rod into two parts since you will be able to exploit the fracture to your advantage. Basic science, my friend.
Vaylin ripped apart a structure that was like 15 stories tall and its walls were extremely thick and durable. Check this thread for details: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t619116.html
Darth Vader's feat does not compares, honestly.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nargaroth
Also, before his prime, Vader Force gripped SK while not only holding back, but basically throwing the fight.
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This is somewhat supported by the novel, where Starkiller notes, in the first part of the fight, that Vader was testing him, and in the second, Vader still didn't want to kill him.
For the record, Starkiller was strong enough to disintegrate half of a 300 meter frigate while simultaneously maintaining a Force Barrier.
A powerful Force-user can have his moments against another powerful Force-user in a confrontation.
You will notice moments in which Darth Vader was dominating Starkiller and moments in which Starkiller was dominating Darth Vader.
I am not asserting that Darth Vader is lacking in strength, my point is that his top showings in the context of destruction of infrastructure do not compare to those of Vaylin.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nargaroth
And don't try to spout nonsense like it being exaggerated or inconsistent, because none of Vader's feats by that time (and by this I mean a few years before or after that point) contradict that, considering that the vast majority of his best showings were performed something like 17 or 18 years before TFU2, so nothing proves Vader is incapable of producing that level of power, given that he grew progressively stronger in the Force during those years. Also, the claim those feats are exaggerated can be applied to most of the EU, and considering that those kind of feats are being replicated in canon material, which is just as valid as the movies themselves, that would be an idiotic argument that could be only used because some people don't want some characters to reach a certain level. And considering that Vader was compared to Yoda (several times), even before TFU, that is quite telling he is above Vaylin.
Vaylin's strength in the Force is also astounding and Valkorion prevented her from exploring her Force abilities.
"It's Vaylin! She'll bring the whole city crashing down on you if she has to!" (Lana Beniko)
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nargaroth
Finally, Vader collapsed a cathedral while gravely wounded, and while he was in the underlevels of the structure. That happened 23 years pre prime, and it's honestly more impressive than Vaylin's showing. Many years after that point, he would certainly do much better.
How big is this Cathedral?
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Oct 24th, 2015 06:54 AM
McP
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Registered: Sep 2014
Location: Poland
After a few months/years she will be nothing in compere to Vader. That's nothing new, that most of you are fapping to new characters from some stupid games/other medias.
Arround '05 most of KMC's users thought, that Bane is best, that Sidious would be unable to defeat Sion etc. etc.
Oct 24th, 2015 10:29 AM
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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? The key being that people like Sion weren't doing the shit Valkorion/Vaylin/Arcann were doing.
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Oct 24th, 2015 01:53 PM
FreshestSlice
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Why are you responding to McP though?
Oct 24th, 2015 02:55 PM
JKBart
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are u harassing my an polak comrade
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Oct 24th, 2015 02:58 PM
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Bart 10/10 pyrmud
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Oct 24th, 2015 02:59 PM
FreshestSlice
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JKBart
are u harassing my an polak comrade
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He's been harassing my T-cells with his shitty-non arguments so I thought to return the favor.
Oct 24th, 2015 03:00 PM
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