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Darth Vader vs Darth Plagueis
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ares834
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That isn't canon. In the film he stated his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Weak.



In the film he is lying through his teeth and said he taught his apprentice everything he knew...

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We're in a Legends forum, Quan.


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In the film he is lying through his teeth and said he taught his apprentice everything he knew...
You would have to prove it. Just because Sidious lies that doesn't mean he lies about everything.


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We're in a Legends forum, Quan.
I argue canon only.


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I argue canon only.

Then why jump into a legends conversation? wink


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Then why jump into a legends conversation? wink
Because I choose to.


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Sounds... Quanish. thumb up


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Sounds... Quanish. thumb up
You have let me down and I release you from the challenge. I will find someone with the passion to argue it someday. Your heart isn't in it.


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Masters of paper's feats. At this moment, I feel that Vader is really overhyped. After all, ESB Luke was able to hit his armor. ROTJ Luke bested him. ANH Kenobi was comfortably able to hold his own. Kanan and Ezra combined were able to Force push him (doesn't matter if he was discracted, he shouldn't be). In the Legends Dark Woman who past her prime, and few other mid-level Jedi were a match for him.

No way that he's going to beat someone of Plagueis' caliber.




Come on Dude, a lot has changed. Vader under Disney Canon is a Force Beast. He never used TK against ROTJ Luke or ANH Ben, so nothing's been contradicted. And it's not like Kenobi or Luke Skywalker are weak either. But all these new comic book showings for Vader are Canon.

It was different in Legends, and very different in Lucas's own continuity. But under Disney's new continuity Vader is something else.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Do guys normally greater than the other wait till they are sleeping to kill them. Nah.


TPM Sidious. Now we are up against ROTS Sidious. He got a big boost in power. Learn your Star Wars Quan.


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You have let me down and I release you from the challenge. I will find someone with the passion to argue it someday. Your heart isn't in it.


Quan I'm going to end this khan debate here. Khan can't handle Vader or Sidious. You take Canon only, I believe those new comic books we have seen are canon now. We see Vader tear down ships, we explicitly see him move in blurs to deflect blaster bolts. Now imagine that and put a being of much greater power palpatine. Imagine what he could do just based off that. Now it's your choice on if you wanna use ROTJ Sidious or ROTS Sidious. I don't care which. Hell you could even use TPM Sidious because it all comes down to same thing. Either Sidious will blitz Khan, ragdoll him, or fry his ass with lightning. I'm going to be nice and let you decide how Khan dies since you love him so much.

Don't bring up any old argument you use like, Sidious didn't kill Luke with lightning after exposure to it for long periods of time, he was trotting hi. For the majority of the time, or he was killed by a one handed cyborg, while being distracted torturing his biggest adversary. Another one you would bring up is Vader is slow. Look at those scans where we see Vader on the panel moving in blurs easily. Now all of this is just canon, you said canon only, never said just movies TCW and Rebels. Let go to rebels, don't use the "oh Ezra and Kanan force pushed Vader so Khan can easily shoot him with his gun" argument, because Khan doesn't have the force and Khan wouldn't even make it that far. Did you see what Vader did? He lifted an AT-AT with ease.

Vader has the force, Khan doesn't. All he has is his gun which based on feats Vader or Sidious can easily take away. Sidious is more powerful than Vader no has a wider array of powers that real extreme magnitudes. Khan shall die a slow and painful death by both. You lose. You always lose.


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Plagueis beats any version of Vader.

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Pretty sure Plagueis did heal fully from the Maladian attack, a d was also healing himself against Sidious' lightning despite being drunk as **** and ambushed. Some world record horseshit being spewed in this thread lmao.


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Come on Dude, a lot has changed. Vader under Disney Canon is a Force Beast. He never used TK against ROTJ Luke or ANH Ben, so nothing's been contradicted. And it's not like Kenobi or Luke Skywalker are weak either. But all these new comic book showings for Vader are Canon.

It was different in Legends, and very different in Lucas's own continuity. But under Disney's new continuity Vader is something else.
Legends Vader really isn't that different from Canon Vader, more impressive feats yes but nothing Legends Vader couldn't feasibly accomplish.

He's certainly done nothing to suggest he's a more powerful or even comparable in any aspect of the Force to Plagueis.

People are getting overexcited concerning feats that aren't even Starkiller level.


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Pretty sure Plagueis did heal fully from the Maladian attack

Then why did he need a Transpirator mask, after the attack, then? KEK. The rest of your post is irrelevant because no one said Plagueis couldn't heal himself. Just not to the extent that he could recover from having more than half of his body chopped.


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His skill in Midichlorian manip peaked after the transpirator mask, at which point I believe he either took it off or didn't need it. Kek.
If Maul can survive bisection Plagueis sure as shit can. Not that Vader would be capable of inflicting that kind of injury.


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Plagueis > Vader is the correct answer if your approach isn't hurdur lift all the things


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I sense much butthurt.

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Lots of Vader hate, Neph.

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Deronn Solo
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Quote for him not needing the transpirator mask, please. Also, red-herring; no one ever said Plagueis can't survive extreme damage - only that he couldn't heal himself to the degree Redpill was.

Also, nah. Vader is just going to remove his head.


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