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Jmanghan
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TOR Scourge vs Meetra Surik

1. Sabers

2. Force

3. All-Out


I think Scourge takes it with mid-difficulty.


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They both suck


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They both suck


But Scourge less so.


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Scourge has done absolutely nothing to prove he's better than Surik, infact the exact opposite is true. TOR wanking is only good when it makes sense Skillz.


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Hey everyone, it's now wank to consider the 300 year old Emperor's Wrath who makes Dark Councillors shit themselves at the mere mention of his name and eats them for breakfast, to be above someone who is treated with impunity by one. My bad!


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Name one of those Dark Councillors with anything on Darth Nyriss and at the same time don't go ignoring Scourge stating that all the following Councillors were essentially pathetic.

Then tell me why losing his greatest gift and killing a thousand unknown Sith and Jedi somehow elevates him so far beyond his novel incarnation that he suddenly stomps someone like Surik.

But obviously I know your only answer is going to come from a mindset that Kotor II characters are shit. I haven't forgetten.


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Well I mean, the (former) Dark Councillor who stalemated Tol Braga (the guy who gave end Act 3 HoT and his companion a legitimate fight and was considered alongside the HoT and the rest of the Act 2 strike team as the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy,) considered himself mincemeat to the likes of Scourge, who casually walked through the Republic Base on Quesh fully prepared to slaughter Sajar and the HoT. Then there's him actually "stalemating" the HoT/his companion and the Hero accepting Scourge's musing that he could have slaughtered him on Quesh to the point of outright trusting him, (I.e. Shit, I think I can trust this guy, after all if he wanted me dead, he would have killed me on Quesh).

I mean geez, it's not just killing a thousand Sith and 100 Jedi that had grown too powerful for The Emperor's liking, it's the fact that he had his battle prowess amped by Vitiate and 300 years to reach his immense potential and hone his skills.


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Yes, yes, he's arrived on Act II Hero of Tython's level, that is great and all, but hardly unprecedented given the Hero of Tython was given hard fights by the likes of Darth Angral.

He was given immortality in exchange for losing his emotions to total numbness and thus paying the price of his most specisl gift, as Nyriss notes, which is the reason for his immense potential.

Obviously killing over three serious opponents per year is great and all, but hardly the kind of experience that's turning him into a Nyriss killer.

Lord Scourge obviously improved after the novel, but the amount to which is largely unquantifiable and I can't see a legitimate reason he's going well beyond wanting to serve Revan and the Exile, by his own admission, to the point of easily defeating a full strength Meetra.


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Sorry, but being given a hard fight by Angral...just makes Angral a beast, and given that he was offered a spot on the Dark Council and was valued by Vitiate, I'm not surprised. The Hero has been stated numerous times as, even at the end of Act 1/start of Act 2, the most powerful Jedi in the order, more so than Satele Shan and the Barsen'thor, (both of whom are above Meetra). Yet Scourge shits on Quesh!HoT.

Ok, the gorging shit is pointless for 2 reasons:

1. Revan senses Scourge has immense potential
2. TOR doesn't really care. Like, for Gods' sakes, TOR shits on the Revan Novel's story. In the very convo he states that'd he'd have "served Revan and Meetra," he says that he was working in the shadows to support them, and that he was, "their eyes and ears in the Sith Academy."


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Well I mean, the (former) Dark Councillor who stalemated Tol Braga (the guy who gave end Act 3 HoT and his companion a legitimate fight and was considered alongside the HoT and the rest of the Act 2 strike team as the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy,) considered himself mincemeat to the likes of Scourge, who casually walked through the Republic Base on Quesh fully prepared to slaughter Sajar and the HoT. Then there's him actually "stalemating" the HoT/his companion and the Hero accepting Scourge's musing that he could have slaughtered him on Quesh to the point of outright trusting him, (I.e. Shit, I think I can trust this guy, after all if he wanted me dead, he would have killed me on Quesh).

I mean geez, it's not just killing a thousand Sith and 100 Jedi that had grown too powerful for The Emperor's liking, it's the fact that he had his battle prowess amped by Vitiate and 300 years to reach his immense potential and hone his skills.


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The outcome of this fight is also compounded by the fact that TOR gives as much of a **** about the Novel as Karpyshyn does about KOTOR 2.


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Sorry, but being given a hard fight by Angral...just makes Angral a beast, and given that he was offered a spot on the Dark Council and was valued by Vitiate, I'm not surprised. The Hero has been stated numerous times as, even at the end of Act 1/start of Act 2, the most powerful Jedi in the order, more so than Satele Shan and the Barsen'thor, (both of whom are above Meetra). Yet Scourge shits on Quesh!HoT.

Ok, the gorging shit is pointless for 2 reasons:

1. Revan senses Scourge has immense potential
2. TOR doesn't really care. Like, for Gods' sakes, TOR shits on the Revan Novel's story. In the very convo he states that'd he'd have "served Revan and Meetra," he says that he was working in the shadows to support them, and that he was, "their eyes and ears in the Sith Academy."


The Barsen'thor and Hero of Tython obviously become Meetra's superiors, they're essentially the two greatest Jedi ever by Act III. You don't need to tell me the obvious, ....but Satele Shan? erm

Regardless this great leap in potential you are suggesting just isn't evidenced in TOR, he's obviously gotten better than the days of struggling with Xedrix but to the point of easily beating a full strength Surik on neutral ground? That's a gross overestimate.


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I'm saying end of Act 1 'Thor > Meetra. And end of Act 1 HoT > 'Thor (and Meetra,) yet the Hero still isn't Scourge level at that point. And yes, Satele Shan > Meetra.

Ok.


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Meetra is Koon level.

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Damn, Skillz sure convinced me. Scourge wins.


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Meetra is Koon level.


Disgusting.


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Too high or low IYO?


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Meetra is Koon level.


Lower imo, but yeah that sounds about right


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