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Malgus and Thanaton vs Dooku and Ventress
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UCanShootMyNova
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Malgus and Thanaton vs Dooku and Ventress

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Dooku > Malgus in everything

But the fight could hinge on if Ventress can withstand Thanatons lightning/sorcery


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Dooku > Malgus
Ventress > Thanaton


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Dooku ~ Malgus
Ventress > Thanaton

Team 2 takes it, yeah.


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Thanaton > Ventress.


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Thanaton never impressed me that much, especially as a warrior. Plus, PT people are always going to be selected when in doubt because they're more documented than TOR characters.


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Thats a terrible way to decide things. And Thanaton should impress you. Nox walked in on him with 2 force ghosts amping her and Thanaton still stomped her and Khem instantly.


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It's a terrible a way but it's done.

I'm aware of Thanaton feats I just think they aren't as decisive. If Ventress close the distance and quickly attacks him, he's fuc***


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He managed to hold off Kressh for a time far before his prime.


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But if Ventress close the distance, it's going to be difficult for him to find an opening to use his powers and in a lightsaber fight, Ventress is going to overwhelm him.


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True enough.

Let's put the starting distance at 7 meters. Not too close and not too far to put either side at a disadvantage.


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Thanaton's sorcery is an interesting feat given its potency, but I assume it doesn't work on beings stronger than himself since he didn't attempt it again on the stronger Nox that had bound 4 spirits to him/herself. There might be the issue of how long it takes him to prepare it as well given that Nox had to fight two of his apprentices before he decided to employ it. Also he refers to rituals before he uses his technique, which usually take time. Not to mention the attack takes several seconds to take affect, which Dooku could take advantage of to disrupt.

I'd still give it to Team 1, but reviewing Thanaton's feats, he just doesn't look very impressive at all. His pre-prime fight vs Exal were both losses on his part, with his victory only resulting from a cheapshot in the second fight. His lightning has the potency to kill large beasts pre-prime, but during the Inquisitor Campaign, his lightning hasn't really done anything. It's flashy and and showy, but it hasn't really killed anyone to my knowledge; I honestly wouldn't put thanaton's lightning over Dooku's. And thanaton's trump card of sorcery is just difficult to gauge given how he under-uses it in dire times, like his final confrontation with Nox. He's definitely the weakest antag of the FS campaigns, and claims like he could solo Maul and Savage have yet to be substantiated.

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Depends. Thanaton's spell whatever that nearly killed Nox in Act II would probably destroy Ventress. Dooku takes Malgus, though.

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As we saw with Nox, Thanaton can use a Lightning Storm to buy himself time to fly to a distance if he needs to, even with Nox at that kind of range.

Plus don't forget that this is a team battle. If Malgus see's Thanaton being overwhelmed in sabers he can throw out a push or bolt to buy him some time.

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It's a terrible a way but it's done.

I'm aware of Thanaton feats I just think they aren't as decisive. If Ventress close the distance and quickly attacks him, he's fuc***


He isn't, you're severely underestimating him. Besides which he can use his ritual attack near instantly. No idea why you don't think of that as decisive. He took out Nox and Khem with the utmost of decisiveness.

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There might be the issue of how long it takes him to prepare it as well given that Nox had to fight two of his apprentices before he decided to employ it.


He used an attack on Nox before it which Nox blocked. He didn't prep for his ritual attack.


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dooku solos on his best day


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Dooku takes Malgus, though.


Really doubting that tbh. While I would give Dooku the edge as a duelist Malgus is both a Djem So practitioner and holds a substantial physical edge over the Count. I lean Malgus.


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There's nothing stating Malgus is a Djem so practioner. Honestly, he looks more like a Juyo practioner that takes advantage of his strenght.


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Does it matter? The only part of Djem So Dooku mentioned as a problem was the strength, which Malgus has. Its not like the form is itself Dooku's kryptonite.


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dooku solos on his best day


Next joke.


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The fact that Sidious choose Malgus as his archetype sith warrior and lavished him with some insane praises - a guy who had lived 3600 years before him and the fact he used Malgus journal to inspire Vader is very huge.

Sidious also used Malgus' example to teach Vader how a warrior should channel his rage effectively in battle.

He should be easily Dooku tier.


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