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Malgus and Thanaton vs Dooku and Ventress
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Ursumeles
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Anakin alone would also beat Foundry Revan erm

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Doubtful, but whatever. The Protags weren't at full power at that point either, Nox didn't even have her full ghosts and complete control.

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So...why he didn't won, then?

Sure. 1. Jadus is a shitty combat
2. How did Cipher not won through PIS, lel?


Because he's fighting 4 of the greatest champions at once, lol. Everyone seems to have a real problem with this very simple concept that he's fight FOUR of them at once. Just because he can ragdoll 3 if them at once doesn't mean he can maintain that while the Hero of Tython wails on him in sabers.

Worse than AotC Kenobi? Lol, ok.

That sentence makes no sense.


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Doubtful, but whatever. The Protags weren't at full power at that point either, Nox didn't even have her full ghosts and complete control.



Because he's fighting 4 of the greatest champions at once, lol. Everyone seems to have a real problem with this very simple concept that he's fight FOUR of them at once. Just because he can ragdoll 3 if them at once doesn't mean he can maintain that while the Hero of Tython wails on him in sabers.

Worse than AotC Kenobi? Lol, ok.

That sentence makes no sense.

But do we have evidence for him ragdolling even one?

Could be.

Didn't Cipher won through PIS?


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Also, we don't must discuss Cipher 9 anymore. If Malgus ragdolled him, he probably oneshotted him.
Also, if you can ragdoll someone, you usually are able to remove them grom zhe fight. Like Dooku did against Kenobi, while facin Skywalker. Why didn't Malgus do the same against 'Thor?


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But do we have evidence for him ragdolling even one?

Could be.

Didn't Cipher won through PIS?


It happens so, uh, yes???? Just watch the fight, at certain points he chokes out 3 of the combatants while going solo against the 4th while TP'ing them. He could easily ragdoll Obi-Wan while fighting Anakin. Hell, with his TP he'd win.

Hell no.

I mean, they "won" by damaging him so he starts healing himself in the middle of the room, letting them trap him in a force field.

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Also, we don't must discuss Cipher 9 anymore. If Malgus ragdolled him, he probably oneshotted him.

Also, if you can ragdoll someone, you usually are able to remove them grom zhe fight. Like Dooku did against Kenobi, while facin Skywalker. Why didn't Malgus do the same against 'Thor?


He didn't. Also "don't must", lol.

Well, I guess this was an unusual case then because they were still in the fight after he was forced to break their hold. Probably didn't have the opportunity to do that since he was still fighting the last team member.


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1. Non game mechanic evidence? :/
2. He hasn't done anything that puts him above AotC Kenobi as combatant.
3. So, Jadus>Cipher 9? Kewl.
4. Malgus can't oneshot an non-force sensitive? He is clearly >Dooku. Note: Legends Dooku, before you counter with the pirate showing. Also, he probably could, but why didn't he?
5. Why he didn't ragdolled him anymore, then?


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1. Sure. During a non-gameplay mechanic scripted event, Malgus ragdolls 3 of the team while TP'ing and fighing the 4th. This is recognised in the OOU text box and with text on screen as occurring.

2. Vitiate called him the greatest Sith ever produced in his Empire. He is vaaaaaastly more powerful than Obi-Wan. Come on.

3. No shit. It doesn't make Cipher 9 fodder or anything. The feat is still incredible. To harm a being of that power is one of the best feats for a non-force sensitive.

4. Don't be facetious, it doesn't suit you. Loads of people have fought non-force sensitives without one-shotting them. Like, I dunno, Revan? They had 2 highly powerful force using team mates as back up. Its obvious it wouldn't be that easy.

5. He probably couldn't maintain the hold while dueling an opponent on that level. The strain of ragdolling 1 of the force using TOR protags would be significant even without having to fight the other at the same time.


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1. Could I have the quote?
2. Sure, he could potentially ragdoll Kenobi. I still could see Kenobi beating him, like Cipher 9 did.
3. Yes, Cipher 9 is impressive. Imo besides Grievous, YV and the Fetts the most impressive non-force sensitivey. But Jadus- who is vastly more powerful than Kenobi, who destroyed Durge, who has better durability feats than Cipher- should be able to ragdoll Cipher.
4. If Kenobi can do that to Durge. Also, Malgus ragdolled them after you- and suddenly stoped?
5. Eh, he should be able to make a Dooku, but fair enough.


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"Non-gameplay" lmfao

It occurs exactly during gameplay.

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1. Could I have the quote?
2. Sure, he could potentially ragdoll Kenobi. I still could see Kenobi beating him, like Cipher 9 did.
3. Yes, Cipher 9 is impressive. Imo besides Grievous, YV and the Fetts the most impressive non-force sensitivey. But Jadus- who is vastly more powerful than Kenobi, who destroyed Durge, who has better durability feats than Cipher- should be able to ragdoll Cipher.
4. If Kenobi can do that to Durge. Also, Malgus ragdolled them after you- and suddenly stoped?
5. Eh, he should be able to make a Dooku, but fair enough.


1. "The time has come. [Player Name] must face Malgus alone!"

2. "Potentially"? Lol. And nah. Kenobi lacks Cipher 9'd stealth abilities or ability to fight without directly engaging him. As a Jedi he'd directly fight Jadus and get pwned.

3. And I'm sure he obviously could have if Cipher hadn't of fought so well and given him no opportunity to do so.

4. After Durge at him, while Kenobi was able to fully focus on him. Malgus is fighting 4 people, the situation is wildly different. He stops after a while, yes.

5. Ok.


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1. What do you say to Novas: "It occurs exactly during gameplay."?
2. Good, then Kenobi couldn't. But Jango. Also, didn't the strike team attacked Malgus directly?
4. Yeah, but Malgus is in your opinion vastly more powerful then Kenobi, and the durability of the non-force sensitive TOR Protags don't comes close to Durges.


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1. Its a scripted event that always occurs during the fight. The developers intended for it to happen during the fight. The fact that it's narrated as occurring by OOU text cements it as canonical.

2. Cipher 9 possesses a stealth field generator and is capable of vanishing while Malgus fights the other members.

3. Like I said, Malgus is fighting other opponents, unlike Kenobi. And he's not literally inside his opponents and capable of blowing them up with a force wave. Its obvious that he was simply unable to apply lethal force in that kind of team fight. Especially against opponents who survive fights with Revan, the Dread Masters, Arcann, Soa and numerous other powerful force users.


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Lol. While I rank Malgus higher sice a few days, thanks to Syn, he doesn't approach the likes of Dooku or Traya, then.


They entered the room to fight the most powerful Sith in the Galaxy at the time. They'd be utterly retarded to not have their defenses up whether they were "in a battle stance" or not.


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Like Agen and Tiin against Sidious? erm


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When Tiin and Kolar were blitzed by Sidious. There's nothing indicating their defenses were lowered aside from Tiin who was tricked into doing so.


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I mean, Agen and Tiin did have their sabers drawn and were ready for a fight. So no idea wtf thats about.


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How long would it take for Thanaton to gather an FL storm to oneshot Ventress?


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