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DE Sidious vs Mother Talzin & Valkorion
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SunRazer
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DE Sidious vs Mother Talzin & Valkorion

Fight takes place on Dathomir. Can the Reborn Emperor vanquish both of his enemies?

Canon Talzin. Legends for the others. Fight takes place 30m apart.

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AncientPower
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Sheev is f*cked.


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Ursumeles
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Team, most likely.


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SunRazer
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Reasons?

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Two-Plagueis level opponents are just too much.
If he does it right, he may wins, tho.


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SunRazer
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Keep in mind that Talzin contended with Canon Sidious, who's weaker than Legends Sidious. We can't mix-and-match.

Valkorion's also hopelessly outclassed on his own here. This isn't nearly as one-sided as you two are making it out to be.

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Ursumeles
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I don't think it is one-sided, lmao.
I just give the team a slight majority atm.


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Team dominates.


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SunRazer
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Fair enough. Would you say Talzin is Plagueis-level, though? How powerful do you think Canon RotS Sidious is?

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Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Team dominates.


Based on what?

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Based on collectively being more powerful, lmao.


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SunRazer
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That doesn't mean you'll dominate, lmao.

Anyway, are they more powerful? What's this based on?

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Ursumeles
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Fair enough. Would you say Talzin is Plagueis-level, though? How powerful do you think Canon RotS Sidious is?

Yeah, on Dathomir. Maybe a bit less.
She nearly-equaled an Sidious, who ragdolled the likes of Dooku(some of Dookus best feats are from.canon).


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SunRazer
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That Valkorion solos? lol

Sidious has him eclipsed by TK feats, Speed feats, Lightning feats, TP feats, willpower feats, accolades, etc.

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See, here's my standing on it. We've barely seen any of Valk's power, and yet we already have some solid feats. We've never seen him show any real effort put into a single feat as Valkorion, which leads me to believe that he has far more power than people give him credit for. I think that the best feats we have from him are comparatively menial and minuscule compared to what he's capable of on a whim. This is purely speculation and assumption, which is why I try to stay away from debates with Valkorion and anyone ROTJ Sheev + tier in combat. Feel free to shit on me, this is just my belief, and I will accept whether I'm right or wrong when we get to see his true power. I have no intention of backing him up for being < Sheev, because I accept that his feats put him above Valkoriate, but I will defend his standing as where he deserves as a minimum.


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Ursumeles
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> Implying that we have seeen more a fraction of Sidious power in most areas, either.


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SunRazer
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Sheev performs most of his feats casually, if not effortlessly, as well.

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Team wins definitely, of course everybody already knows that I think Valkorion is>DE Sidious; so it wasn't a hard choice.

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Team wins definitely, of course everybody already knows that I think Valkorion is>DE Sidious; so it wasn't a hard choice.


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