KMC Forums - Why Valkorion is more powerful than Palpatine.

@Beniboybling

You have quite aptly brought to attention one of the most outlying reasons why the double standard nexus wanking that is perpetuating by your Sheev brigade is so outright hilarious. You and those like you have wanked the idea that all of Vitiate's feats are nexus amplified. In the OP I destroyed that argument, but here lies the chief problem:

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"Slowly but steadily, he used his dark Force powers to enslave the people on the world and drain their life energies to fuel his own vile experiments.
- Byss and the Core Worlds

Just to rephrase this, the entire time Sidious was summoning Force Storms, he was being amplified constantly by the draining of 20,000,000,000 on Byss.

Clearly Force Storms are a feat Sidious achieved by utilising an enormous external source of practically unlimited energy.

Here comes the humorous part, Darth Sidious freely admits that they are an energy pool designed to sustain his 'experiments':

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"The galaxy is choked with beings. Billions die every instant. It is better to make use of this resource. At my retreat on Byss, the life force of its colonists supplied an energy pool to sustain my dark side experiments."
- Darth Sidious, Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side

Something reinforced again in The Essential Guide:

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After choosing Byss as his resort world, Palpatine lured eager nobles to the planet�then used his dark powers to enslave its people, channeling their life energies for use in his own vile experiments within the fell Imperial Citadel.
- The Essential Atlas

Most interesting is the fact that, whereas the Immortal Emperor Valkorion has found a means by which to gain immortality via a ritual:

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Nathema: Once known as Medriaas, Nathema was an agriworld of the Sith Empire at a time when Sith also controlled the Chorlian sector. An ancient Dark Lord of the Sith named Darth Vitiate destroyed all life on Nathema with a ritual designed to grant him immortality.
- Star Wars: Force and Destiny - Core Rulebook

And then a death field, whilst a disembodied spirit, which not only ended Ziost, but also sapped energy from Ziost's moons and the local star:

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Darth Sidious on the other hand, freely admits that he has not yet discovered this 'ultimate' secret:

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Nor do we have evidence indicating this has changed, infact upon return to Byss after his death, we have the implication that he merely continued to do what he had done prior:

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The Emperor's death brought little respite to the people of Byss. Within months, the Emperor inhabited his clone body and began the rebuilding process.
- Byss and the Core Worlds

So far we've established that, the Sith Emperor Vitiate as a disembodied spirit can dominate entire armies, including Jedi:

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Using his immense power in the dark side of the Force, he has dominated the minds of the planet�s Imperial troops--as well as an elite cadre of militaristic Jedi--and has set them against the populace, engaging in a bloody slaughter.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Rise of the Emperor

Whilst creating immortal monstrosities out of pure dark side energy:

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Given enough intellect, knowledge, fortitude and power, Sith alchemy can be used to achieve the seemingly impossible, such as transforming flesh and bone to form vicious Sithspawn such as the imposing Massassi and the unstoppable Terentatek. But Monoliths are something beyond Sithspawn: they are everlasting monstrosities built not on a foundation of living tissue but of dark side energy itself. Enduring and merciless and quite possibly unkillable, Monoliths plainly illustrate the immeasurable power of their creator and are best avoided at all costs.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Rise of the Emperor: Codex Entry: 'Monolith'

Oh and draining a planet, without a ritual, as the distinction is made here:

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Whispered rumors have persisted of planets snuffed out through intricate Sith rituals or by way of deadly, arcane machines--such as the device Revan sought to employ on Yavin 4--but Ziost represents a clear display of the corrosive power of the dark side taken to its extreme.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Rise of the Sith Emperor: Codex Entry 'Death of a World'

Whereas Darth Sidious:

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Having survived the destruction of the second Death Star as a ghostly manifestation, I can assure you that it is a most wearisome state to be in. It is not enough to retain one�s powers beyond death, for a noncorporeal avatar can only do so much.
- Darth Sidious, [I]Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side

Then not only have I established that Darth Sidious doesn't even know how to replicate Vitiate's world devouring power, we've established that the specially designed Byss pool of energy he drains from, is the supply he requires to continue his 'experiments.' What, pray tell, are these 'experiments'?

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Although triggering such storms requires merely thought and inclination, I admit I am not yet able to completely control the phenomenon. Among my goals is to perfect this control."
- Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force

Now on to the last but certainly not least imbecilic claim.

Beni, you seek to lowball Emperor Vitiate's galactic scale destruction by fallaciously drawing parallels between him and the infinitely inferior Traya's attempt to end the Force with wounds. Not only have you ignore the fact that Meetra specifically states that Malachor V and Nathema aren't remotely on the same level:

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The events of Malachor had left a mark on the Force; a wound that would not heal. Here, however, the Force was simply � gone. It was as if someone had ripped it away, leaving only an empty void behind.

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On Malachor she�d felt the echoes of unimaginable pain and suffering�but at least she�d felt something. Here on Nathema, there was only a cold emptiness. It was unnatural; abhorrent. On Malachor she had felt the echo of great destruction; here there was only the unbearable void of annihilation.
- Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

You also somehow ignored a link that shows Vitiate's draining the galaxy in mere seconds:

https://youtu.be/NAZOn0mPfTU

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