What is it with some of you? I never understood the urge to troll and flame people who you disagree. Either point out why you think somebody is wrong with canon facts, or simply ignore their posts and move on. There's no reason for trolling. Please get back to the topic and stop trolling/flaming. I really don't feel like temp banning people today.
@AP and co. I just skimmed through the first post, but why do you exactly think that Palpatines supremacy quotes are wrong?
Hollistically, his concept is being the most powerful- he is stated as such since 20+ years.
Which is really stupid, because there is no one with more willpower than an entire planet. Especially not a Smuggler. Valkorion explains he takes control of others permanently by "hollowing" them out, something he apparently needs others for. He's all hype and no substance. Just like every TOR villain.
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They are one in the same, the nexus of Nathema was so large and powerful, that it was capable of consuming the very presence of the Force itself. Not to mention all flora and fauna on the planet's surface:
Something far beyond the power of Sidious' chaotic nexus:
You assume immortality and becoming an omniscient being, are one in the same. He intended to become a God with his galactic scale ritual, whereas at Ziost he achieved a measure of incorporeal immortality:
Something Darth Plagueis never achieved and Sidious was only capable of an archaic iteration of.
The use of a physical body is exactly why the likes of Freedon Nadd and others were incapable of bringing themselves back from death, it is well documented that spirits have limitations:
How well this applies to the Sith Emperor is debatable, but enacting a ritual requires a physical manifestation.
The distinction is between worlds rumored to have been ravaged by rituals(Nathema, Ambria) and devices such as that which Revan and Ulic used, comparatively Ziost was a clear display of extreme dark side power.
More importantly we know that it wasn't the same ritual as that which Vitiate used at Nathema, Nathema was described as being consumed by the largest dark side nexus the galaxy would ever see. Ziost was quite clearly subject to what resembled a death field.
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Temp's point about size is a good one, but I think it should be obvious that the statement is excluding living beings. Otherwise we've had to assume that Nathema > Vitiate, or that Vitiate never became a nexus like being in the manner Sidious did.
Either way he's inferior.
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