So hopefully after the next few days I'll have completed some of my more pressing real life obligations and will be able to finish the Vader vs. Revan fights.
As my time is now a little more limited, I think it would be a little more efficient for me to focus on doing more meaningful threads and debates rather than just casual posting - although I'll still do that for the social aspect. So while I wrap that up with Ant, I'd be happy to get any ideas for other one vs. one's. This is probably actually more time efficient (.i.e. to do a large reply a day rather than tons of random posts). Some ideas:
Plagueis vs. Valkorion
Sidious vs. Valkorion
Luke vs. Sidious
Dooku vs. Arcann
Caedus vs. Vader
Whether TFA was a good movie
Meta-debates about evidentiary standards, etc.
Non Star Wars related discussions (I guess we'd do that on General Discussion), like politics, philosophy, etc.
Let me know! PM'ing would probably work best but however.
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Dimension is a broad, vague, term that can be used to describe shit as tiny as the pocket dimensions witches create in Madoka Magica (IIRC, they're typically the size of buildings) or the ludicrous scale that exists in Tenchi Muyo
Never assume dimension is equivalent to universe without context backing it basically *shrugs*
Piccolo replicates it with a Power level of 320ish the night after fighting Raditz
Just short of the first time Vegeta goes ballistic and says he'll waste the planet
Wouldn't appeal to Vegeta's word from that alone, but the KE to disperse the moon in the short frame of time Piccolo accomplished his feat corroborates being able to destroy the Earth, or damn near enough give or take a couple dozen zettatons *shrugs*
You can go back and forth on ignoring the high ends, but at the end of the day, context in series by Z supports wasting planets over shit as pithy as wasting a city
Something Roshi's been able to do since he ****ed up Mount Frying Pan
Corroborated by that Red Ribbon ****er's (IIRC, it was Black piloting the thing) missile wasting another mountain top
And something Piccolo Daimao's replicated in his final fight with Kid Goku (wasting a city)
Then you have Piccolo razing that Island/near Continent sized land mas (you can argue for near continent going off the official world map from the Daizenshuu *shrugs*)
Right
Daizenshuu also mentions Goku's Kamehameha has the power to waste the moon around the 23rd IIRC
Vegeta's showing towards the end of Z required more power than Cell to accomplish (and even then, it wasn't direct mind ****, more like mental coercion. Not outright raping their minds, just slightly nudging thoughts... and they needed to have evil in their hearts IIRC), and Babidi's mind **** is kind of awful in the greater scope of most fictions
I agree with you, tbh. I just had been swayed by an old discussion on neoseeker about the planet buster threshold. Consensus was that 18,000 Vegeta probably couldn't do that (filler doesn't count).
Nov 30th, 2016 03:01 AM
