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Jaggarath
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AotC Anakin > AotC Obi-Wan - Nick Gillard

"Of course, he's the chosen one," whispered Gillard. "The audience will want to see that manifest itself. There needs to be flashes of brilliance. He's more skilled than Obi-Wan. Anakin always attacks. He's better and he knows it, which means he's brash on occasion."

http://web.archive.org/web/20050227...s20000711b.html

This might be obvious to some, but neat to get confirmation.


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Confirmation of what? Nick Gillard's opinion/interpretation? This by no means confirms it as a canon fact.

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Published on the official starwars.com website? Unless there's some direct contradiction, seems pretty solid to me.


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But the official website doesn't simply act as a chronicle of canon information; it serves many purposes, many of those purposes having nothing to do with canon facts whatsoever. This is just a behind the scenes article from a quick look at it, and Nick Gillard, being the stunt coordinator of the films, is not a canon authority.

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Most members here take what Gillard has to say completely seriously, given his immeasurable involvement in the creation of everyone's fighting capabilities. thumb up


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Those things aren't canon either lol.

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What, the tier systems? Obviously not, but we still go by them. thumb up


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Anakin did better against Dooku than Obi-wan, should have been clear he is superior.


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This forum goes by many things no matter how legitimate they are it seems.

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George is the one that came up with the level system, not Gillard.


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Was it ever disputed that AOTC Anakin>AOTC Obi-Wan? What's even the case for Obi-Wan being superior?

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Not countering lightning with a headbutt, maybe.


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Kenobi is said to be more powerful by Ventress. Which this quote doesn't contradict.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by nfactor1995
Was it ever disputed that AOTC Anakin>AOTC Obi-Wan? What's even the case for Obi-Wan being superior?


-Kenobi vastly outperforming and being noted as superior to Anakin by Ventress in the tcw movie when Anakin was a knight
-Kenobi stalemating Anakin both telekinetically and via the blade 5 months before rots in obsession
-Kenobi beating an enraged season 4 anakin in h2h
-Kenobi stalemating a hindered knightfall anakin while himself partially hindered and then stalemating a partially hindered knightfall anakin when unhindered

If Anakin has surpassed Kenobi as a padawan, then given his vastly superior potential, none of the above makes much sense.

That being said iirc gillard said somewhere else that while kenobi had moved up one tier from aotc(menaing he was a 7 back then), anakin has moved up 4 tiers from aotc which would put aotc anakin as a 5, and aotc kenobi as a 7.

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hmm.
Looking at the interview, "mace windu's fighting abilities are second only to yoda", would that apply to dooku as well? He did do the swordfigthing for dooku to.

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
If Anakin has surpassed Kenobi as a padawan, then given his vastly superior potential, none of the above makes much sense.

That being said iirc gillard said somewhere else that while kenobi had moved up one tier from aotc(menaing he was a 7 back then), anakin has moved up 4 tiers from aotc which would put aotc anakin as a 5, and aotc kenobi as a 7.

Nah, you've compared two different level systems. The one where Anakin moved up four was before he had the ten-tiers down.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Kenobi is said to be more powerful by Ventress. Which this quote doesn't contradict.



Where?



quote: (post)
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
-Kenobi vastly outperforming and being noted as superior to Anakin by Ventress in the tcw movie when Anakin was a knight



TCW Movie? That was never mentioned.



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Originally posted by S W LeGenD
Those things aren't canon either lol.



The levels are not necessarily canon, but they are the closest we get to Lucas's power ranking for the films.

Gillard didn't just make up the power levels himself lol

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Regardless of what Ventress may or may not have said, Anakin fared much better against Dooku in the movie than she did in S3...


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Where?


TCWM junior novel. Nova has the quote.


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Regardless of what Ventress may or may not have said, Anakin fared much better against Dooku in the movie than she did in S3...

Ventress also beat him in the movie despite losing to him when anakin was a padawan

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