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That was well past his prime.

Prove it.

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Because he fights better defensively and is less likely to get caught off guard.

Or do you have an example of Maul or Dooku TK bitching him when he was combating defensively?

Pretty sure he hasn't fought ''defensively'', per say, against Dooku, because he was always alongside Anakin. As for Maul, I believe he was Force choked inside the cave when he was defending himself? Not really sure, but in any case, you still haven't made any correlation between him fighting defensively and being less likely to get attacked by the Force. That he perhaps hasn't might as well be talked down to chance, because I can't find any logical reason as to why his Force defenses would be better.

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Pretty sure he hasn't fought ''defensively'', per say, against Dooku, because he was always alongside Anakin.



Bingo.


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As for Maul, I believe he was Force choked inside the cave when he was defending himself?



I think he was Actually on the offensive. But his attention was diverted between 2 opponents anyway.

Then at the end of that fight when it is 1 on 1 again, he gets Force blasted when attempting to rush at Maul.


Compare that to Rebels Kenobi who refuses to make the first attacking move, and Maul is clearly unable to do anything to him. Or Mustafar Anakin against ROTS Kenobi. He doesnt get force owned in those situations.

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Prove it.
Common sense did that a long time ago. I can't force you to absorb my knowledge. Snoke knows I've tried.


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^ He probably was past it, given Witwer and Mauls own comments.

But his peak showings were still pretty much on par with what we have seen from him before. Plus he displayed some cool new abilities.

He just has more poor performance moments in his old age. Probably out of frustration.

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He was broken so no one is in their mental prime in this toxic state of mind. Common sense people.


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He was broken so no one is in their mental prime in this toxic state of mind. Common sense people.
Is this why you can relate to Maul? He's symbolic of the typical white-trash lower class worker like yourself who has spiraled into mental decay.


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Is this why you can relate to Maul? He's symbolic of the typical white-trash lower class worker like yourself who has spiraled into mental decay.
Says the mentally abused wanna/don't wannabe dentist. Suicide rate is sky high. Join up, kiddo. I'm sure everything will be all right, sporto.

You seem to be projecting, kiddo. Maul is great and died a hate filled Sith refusing to stop.


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Says the mentally abused wanna/don't wannabe dentist. Suicide rate is sky high. Join up, kiddo. I'm sure everything will be all right, sporto.

You seem to be projecting, kiddo. Maul is great and died a hate filled Sith refusing to stop.
I don't know wtf you're rambling about my dude. Fact is Maul was an insignificant tool who accomplished nothing in the grand scheme of events in the galaxy. You claim he's so smart yet he couldn't stop his own criminals from turning on him.


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I don't know wtf you're rambling about my dude. Fact is Maul was an insignificant tool who accomplished nothing in the grand scheme of events in the galaxy. You claim he's so smart yet he couldn't stop his own criminals from turning on him.
That in and of itself doesn't prove he isn't smart. He isn't all knowing and was a rival to Sidious. That's something very impressive. Sidious wasn't smart enough to save himself against his one handed weaponless apprentice. Maul came out on top against his criminals. Using your own logic I decimate you, bicuspid.


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So how did Maul change history and how was it as relevant compared to Dooku's separatist movement or Vader/Sidious's empire?


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So how did Maul change history and how was it as relevant compared to Dooku's separatist movement or Vader/Sidious's empire?
Maul altered history on Mandalore and his events definitely altered many in Star Wars. Sidious came up with the plan Dooku helped orchestrate including his own demise. Maul was the one orchestrating his life post Phantom Menace. I liked the part when Dooku was set up to be killed and he just took it as Sidious made eye contact and revealed to Dooku, "You are the cuck."


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Maul altered history on Mandalore and his events definitely altered many in Star Wars. Sidious came up with the plan Dooku helped orchestrate including his own demise. Maul was the one orchestrating his life post Phantom Menace. I liked the part when Dooku was set up to be killed and he just took it as Sidious made eye contact and revealed to Dooku, "You are the cuck."
Altered what events? Wiping out the Mandalorians because they all got stomped by Dooku's forces?

Dooku accepted that he was inferior to Skywalker and took death like how Vizsla did. Maul screamed like a little b1tch.


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Altered what events? Wiping out the Mandalorians because they all got stomped by Dooku's forces?

Dooku accepted that he was inferior to Skywalker and took death like how Vizsla did. Maul screamed like a little b1tch.
He was their leader. Maul defeated Pre Vizsla to become their one and only. Dooku cucked to Skywalker and just gave in. Too much Jedi not enough Sith.

Maul didn't scream at all when he died. You're the fan of a Sith Cucklord.


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Yes Maul accepted his loss at the end. And respected Obi-Wan for beating him the way he did.

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I was referring to "have mercy, please, please!"

But yes, he was submissive towards Obi Wan. And this puts him above Dooku because...?


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I was referring to "have mercy, please, please!"

But yes, he was submissive towards Obi Wan. And this puts him above Dooku because...?
No, he wasn't he still never gave into his hate or moved past anything. A true Sith to the bitter end. Dooku was just another Jedi twisted by Sidious.


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No, he wasn't he still never gave into his hate or moved past anything. A true Sith to the bitter end. Dooku was just another Jedi twisted by Sidious.
Maul didn't give into his hate? Or Dooku?


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I was referring to "have mercy, please, please!"

But yes, he was submissive towards Obi Wan. And this puts him above Dooku because...?



He didnt die like that though. But yeah he was very much like his Master who also begged Anakin/Windu to spare him.

Didnt say it put him above Dooku. Just dont see how he comes out looking worse.

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Maul didn't give into his hate? Or Dooku?
I wrote that too quickly. Maul never gave up on his hatred. He hated until the moment of death whereas Dooku accepted his fate which is more characteristic of a Jedi. The Jedi is the way of the cuck.


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