victreebelvictr
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Darth Vader vs. Mother Talzin
All out.
If Count Dooku can’t maybe Vader can!
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Sep 14th, 2018 03:39 PM
TheIndyJedi
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canon Vader definitely could, especially since its implied he is better than Dooku
Sep 14th, 2018 04:53 PM
victreebelvictr
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Yes, but Dooku was so easily ragdolled by her. She also had the ability of Lightning Manipulation.
It was not exactly Force Lightning, but it is pretty close.
Vader and Lightning doesn't mix.
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Sep 14th, 2018 05:04 PM
Darth Thor
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Well its not like Windu stood there taking her Lightning in his hands or something.
Sep 14th, 2018 05:09 PM
victreebelvictr
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Yes, but Vader is not Mace Windu, now is he.
He could tank it, but it won't be for very long.
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Sep 14th, 2018 05:15 PM
TheIndyJedi
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Yes, but Vader is not Mace Windu, now is he.
He could tank it, but it won't be for very long.
He could absorb the lightning with his saber
Sep 14th, 2018 05:17 PM
victreebelvictr
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In the Clone Wars, she visited Dooku as an illusion even though her physical body was at Dathomir.
She could appear at him from all different angles.
Vader would be completely screwed if he couldn't block the real Talzin.
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Sep 14th, 2018 05:31 PM
victreebelvictr
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Not to mention that she also kept up with Mace Windu in dueling.
She can at least stall Vader with her dueling skills.
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Sep 14th, 2018 05:35 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Yes, but Vader is not Mace Windu, now is he.
He could tank it, but it won't be for very long.
Point is Vaders suit being weak to Lightning may not even be a factor.
Sep 14th, 2018 08:26 PM
victreebelvictr
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Why isn’t it? I am sure she would use Force Lightning as an attack.
Please explain.
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Sep 14th, 2018 08:44 PM
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Talzin held her own against Mace in sabers, while being weakened. Sidious stomped her in sabers, but she wasn't in her own body, so that outcome might be debatable. Anyway, she did very well against Sidious in a Force battle and fought him nearly as equal (nearly, coz I believe, that he was overpowering her at the end, a moment before she recieved support from Maul). That's something that Vader, in my opinion, is not capable of.
Sep 20th, 2018 05:20 PM
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Vader wins.
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Sep 20th, 2018 05:21 PM
victreebelvictr
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Vitiate
Vader wins.
No reasoning, it is pretty obvious you have no idea what Talzin is capable of.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by McP
Talzin held her own against Mace in sabers, while being weakened. Sidious stomped her in sabers, but she wasn't in her own body, so that outcome might be debatable. Anyway, she did very well against Sidious in a Force battle and fought him nearly as equal (nearly, coz I believe, that he was overpowering her at the end, a moment before she recieved support from Maul). That's something that Vader, in my opinion, is not capable of.
Agreed, great post.
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Sep 20th, 2018 05:23 PM
Vitiate
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I know exactly what Talzin is capable of. And it is not enough to win against Vader.
Btw are we talking about Legends Vader or Canon Vader? Because Canon Vader loses to Talzin (you named the reasons).
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Sep 20th, 2018 05:27 PM
victreebelvictr
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Legends Vader, just to give him a little boost.
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Sep 20th, 2018 05:32 PM
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Suit Vader is according to some quotes even more powerful than MF Vader. Someone who is in Sidious' and Talzin's league. Also, if Vader can tank Sidious' lightning then he will tank Talzin's as well.
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Sep 20th, 2018 05:48 PM
victreebelvictr
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Not for long though, he is still weaker to it than the average Sith.
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Sep 20th, 2018 05:50 PM
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Vader has nothing stating he can resist Nightsister magic.
He gets possessed, power has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Sep 20th, 2018 06:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well its not like Windu stood there taking her Lightning in his hands or something.
.... wait when
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Sep 20th, 2018 06:34 PM
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FWIW; Promotional images show Talzin’s protection bubble being strong enough to deflect lightsaber blades. We know she’s fully capable of dissipating at will, and we know raw power wise she has the ability to contend with Sidious. Adding to this, she’s shown capability in duelling, pushing Windu back. Even if she’s not a phenomenal duellist (and seeing as lower Nightsisters have been toted as Council level duellists, she’s probably good) she has the skillset to completely negate Vader’s advantages.
She only died because she refused to abandon Maul, that was Sidious’s entire plan, he knew he couldn’t kill her without forcing her to make that choice. If this is full power Talzin as we know her, she takes this.
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Sep 20th, 2018 06:37 PM
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