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J-mister
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Anakin fully acheived potiental vs ROTs yoda+ ROTS mace

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Darth Nhilus
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Welcome to kmc forums then, anyways a fully achieved potecial anakin would destroy them both, quite easily. Not ROTS anakin but if he was alot older and not crippled.


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Darth Nhilus is right, Anakin would win, but not easily. he has the potential to be twice as strong as Sidious and both Mace and Yoda are nearly as strong as Sidious so it'd be hard for him to beat them. If he fought 2 Sidious's it'd be a draw and like I said both Yoda and Mace are just a tiny bit weaker than Sidious so it'd be really hard but Anakin could do it.

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Darth Nhilus
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Sorry I was a little hyper a few minutes ago. It wouldn't be that easy against two or more jedi. But if it was just against one it would be easy.


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J-mister
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add in the count could he still come out the victor + I Know he's not invincible


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I disagree with you two. Mace solidly defeated Sidious. Yoda lost, but it wasn't due to being weaker. Say Yoda had a 60 percent chance of winning; well, the battle went to Sidious, which would happen, say, 40 percent of the time. Both are more powerful than Sidious and Anakin would lose, probably.

Dooku is not necessary for Anakin to lose, with him, it's overkill.


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Darth Nhilus
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Anakin at FULL potetial would take them both. Sids didn't try that hard on mace so anakin would come and since palpy trusted anakin he excepcted him to kill mace. If sids was so weak and tired after that then why did he do lightning and send mace flying out the window? Anakin could take them all, even if sids helped mace and yoda.


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But of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion


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So, you are saying that Mace and Yoda together are weaker than Sidious? GL says that if Anakin had reached his full potential, he would have been twice as good as Sidious.


About the Mace vs. Sidious, give me some proper justification on why Sidious was being weaker.


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No mace and yoda, together were stronger. Yoda was already more powerful then sids. But that's in the long run, they are both about the same. But if anakin got his full potential he would be twice as powerful as sids and be a bit more powerful then the combo of yoda and mace.
The proper justification on why sids was being weaker.
Even though mace was more powerful; then kit fisto he wouldv'e killed mace pretty quickly. Anyways I read in a flick magazine that mace asked George Lucas if he could go out like a pimp.


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Anakin would fall to Mace and Yoda. I don't care if he was at full potential or not. Being at "Full potential" doesn't make you a God, because you are still at a "potential" level.

Yoda and Mace have so much more experience. They would tool Anakin.


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Disprove this.


Sidious clouded himself in the darkside. This made it very difficult to be seen as was shown when he was able to avoid detection for so long. I also believe this was why he was able to defeat the three Jedi in ROTS so easily. The were unable to see him with the force; instead having to use their eyes, something they had been trained not to do. Mace, using Vapaad, was able to see through this shrowd. Sidious didn't cloud the dark side, so Mace, when using Vapaad, had no difficulty seeing him. When he was not using Vapaad, he once again drew upon the Lightside, making Sidious invisible to him again. Yoda was able to overcome this, probably by using his eyes, since he had fought dark Jedi in the past. These dark Jedi in the past would not have been as shrouded as Sidious, allowing Jedi to see them if they knew who they were and they probably recieved special training that was phased out when the Sith became "extinct". The Jedi probably still included this training for a time, maybe three hundred years or so, allowing Yoda to recieve this training as a padawon; he therefor would not know higher forms of this technique, but he had something he could work with, and it allowed him to fight Sidious, even if he was impaired.


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Disprove this.


Sidious clouded himself in the darkside. This made it very difficult to be seen as was shown when he was able to avoid detection for so long. I also believe this was why he was able to defeat the three Jedi in ROTS so easily. The were unable to see him with the force; instead having to use their eyes, something they had been trained not to do. Mace, using Vapaad, was able to see through this shrowd. Sidious didn't cloud the dark side, so Mace, when using Vapaad, had no difficulty seeing him. When he was not using Vapaad, he once again drew upon the Lightside, making Sidious invisible to him again. Yoda was able to overcome this, probably by using his eyes, since he had fought dark Jedi in the past. These dark Jedi in the past would not have been as shrouded as Sidious, allowing Jedi to see them if they knew who they were and they probably recieved special training that was phased out when the Sith became "extinct". The Jedi probably still included this training for a time, maybe three hundred years or so, allowing Yoda to recieve this training as a padawon; he therefor would not know higher forms of this technique, but he had something he could work with, and it allowed him to fight Sidious, even if he was impaired.


It is Disapproved. That is just a staggered theory. It proves zero.


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To many variables. For all we know, Anakin fully powered would go around acting like a guy in DBZ.


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It is just as true as anything that can be said about a full potential Anakin other than he would be twice as good as Sidious.


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It is just as true as anything that can be said about a full potential Anakin other than he would be twice as good as Sidious.



If you consider your prievous paragraph as true as the Potential ordeal, then i could say Mace smoked Chronic and f*cked a prostitue before fighting Sidious.

Seriously.


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J-mister
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I think Anakin is more powerful then he is givin credit. Isn't he 23 and could beat Obi-Won(if he had not made that costly mistake) Stand up to sids and beat the count. I know i'm new but WOW! in his early 20's he is already a war hero. Obi was in his mid to late 20's and had problems with Maul! and in his 30's was manhandeled by Dooku while ani on the other hand in his teens stood up to Dooku in AOTC. Someone help me out.


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Darth_Glentract
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Making costly mistakes is how you lose a fight. The fact that Anakin makes them is a problem. It's not going to be a one-time experince(well, it actually was, you can only lose you limbs once.

Also, that Dooku beat Obi-wan, but Obi-wan beat Anakin, along with other things, shows that Dooku wasn't trying his hardest to kill Anakin; in fact, he was specifically trying to NOT kill Anakin. He didn't plan for Anakin to beat him either, but hey, it happens.


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I think ani was superior to obi in many ways except wisdom and he does have some Quote captain aim at the fuel cells on top of the spacecraft. (AOCT) He fought better as well and to me had better force power. But obi was much wiser and much better with defense


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Darth_Glentract
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this isn't directed at you J-mister, so don't think I am attacking you or anything, but having better defense of knowing how to better use your terrain is part of being the better sword fighter. fights are one by a single jab. Obi-wan defeating Maul in TMP is a great example of this. Sure, Maul was being dumb and should have finished him, but it Obi-wan killing him in the way he did is just like Yoda or Revan would have. They wouldn't have jumped up and started fighting Maul again; that would be just plain stupid. Same with Anakin and Obi-wan. Lacking the intelligence to know not to do what he did is a damper on his brainpower, which translates into his fighting skill. Obi-wan is better than Anakin in lightsaber combat unless there is something I don't know about(which wouldn't surprise me).


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