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General Kon-El
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Ki-Adi-Mundi & Agen Kolar vs. Darth Maul

I give it to the two Jedi. Im pretty sure the two are stronger than Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan


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Ki-Adi and Agen take this.

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Janus Marius
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I think Darth Maul slaughters both.

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Why?

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Janus Marius
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Well, Ki-Adi-Mundi's lightsaber skills are particularly lacking and Agen Kolar got pwned in under five seconds by the same guy that trained Maul. PLus I know from TPM that Maul can keep up a good defense even versus two opponents, and certainly I don't see Agen or Ki greatly outweighing Qui-Gon or Obi-Wan.

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The Jedi, unless Maul can get Agen out of the picture quickly like Sidious did. But if he didn't I think Agen's get warmed up and then the Jedi'd win. But it'd be close. Mundi and Kolar are stronger than Obi and Jinn but Jonn and Obi are probably the better team. But still, Jinn/Obi won so why shouldn't Agen/Mundi?

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Originally posted by darthsith19
The Jedi, unless Maul can get Agen out of the picture quickly like Sidious did. But if he didn't I think Agen's get warmed up and then the Jedi'd win. But it'd be close. Mundi and Kolar are stronger than Obi and Jinn but Jonn and Obi are probably the better team. But still, Jinn/Obi won so why shouldn't Agen/Mundi?


Maul defeated them. Defeating someone doesn't always keep you alive.


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Maul defeated them. Defeating someone doesn't always keep you alive.

Still, either way it's close.

Janus, where'd you hear Ki-Adi-Mundi's lightsaber skills are particularly lacking?

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A) His inability to contend with GG despite having numerical advantage.

B) His inability to defend blaster bolts from a mere five, six clone troopers.

C) His being captured at Geonosia.

D) No strong evidence otherwise

And we saw Agen Kolar get pwned quicklike.

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A) His inability to contend with GG despite having numerical advantage.

B) His inability to defend blaster bolts from a mere five, six clone troopers.

C) His being captured at Geonosia.

D) No strong evidence otherwise

And we saw Agen Kolar get pwned quicklike.


A) You know the Microseries exaggerated certain characters (Mace, Grievous) powers. Even if they hadn't exaggerated GG's power he'd still likely beat Mundi, but not all 5 of them at once. And he was the strongest Jedi of the 5.

B) First off, he was caught by surprise. Next, one of the troopers was an ARC. Third, he was the only Jedi who died on a planet other than Courscant who was strong enough to even put up a fight (besides, of course, Yoda). Even Obi-Wan didn't have time to react only survived because the Clones missed him.

C) Only because he, Plo and Kit went and tried to shut down the droid control mechanism. And they destroyed it to, but all the droids had back-up systems installed in them. And they probably let the droids led them back to the arena because that's where they were headed anyways and they knew the droids would just let them into the curcle of survivors.

D) Okay, I guess there's isn't a lot of evidence of his power. Here's some info from the starwars.com databank: As a four-year-old, Ki's raw talents in the Force were discovered by the mysterious Jedi Master known only as the Dark Woman. Upon entering the larger world of the Jedi, the Council assigned Ki-Adi-Mundi to Jedi Master Yoda.

If not for the timely arrival of an elite squad of ARC troopers, Ki's legacy would surely have ended there

The Jedi Council temporarily reassigned Anakin to Ki-Adi-Mundi (when Obi-Wan was presumed dead)

Mundi was part of the upper tier of the Jedi Council along with Yoda and Mace.



And Agen was pretty bad.

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Well, if he was a legacy who was on the upper tier of the Council along with Yoda and Mace and was given such a high responsibility as to train Anakin he must be at least of average Jedi Master strength.

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Mundi and Kolar are stronger than Obi and Jinn but [Jinn] and Obi are probably the better team.


Agreed. I say Maul, however. Ki-Adi's saber skills are... sub-par for a jedi with his position, and thats being generous. Agen is actually pretty good, maybe about the same level as Qui Gon, but as we saw, thats not good enough. Maul would try to kick away either one of them and kill the other one on one.

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Originally posted by jollyjim311
Agreed. I say Maul, however. Ki-Adi's saber skills are... sub-par for a jedi with his position, and thats being generous. Agen is actually pretty good, maybe about the same level as Qui Gon, but as we saw, thats not good enough. Maul would try to kick away either one of them and kill the other one on one.

Yeah, not saying Ki is amazing but he'd not to bad, better than Agen, IMO. And Agen being on the same level as Qui-Gon is riduculous. You think QG would just stand still and look stupid while Sidious cut him down? You think Agen could last 40 seconds straight with Maul? No way.

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General Kon-El
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Ki-Adi-Mundi survived the Geonosian battle, but he was shot down by clones. I think Ki is slightly stronger than Qui-Gon. Agen is either stronger or equal to Qui-Gon. Ill give it to the Jedi.


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True. They are both probably somewhere inbetween the level of TPM Obi Wan and Qui Gon, but lack the team synergy. I stick with Maul.


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General Kon-El
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they're not between Obi and Qui-Gon. I think Qui-Gon would be as strong as a regualr average Jedi Knight.


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