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Just because you're a TOTJ fanboy doesn't mean there's someone with a bigger brain. Oh what's that, a bigger brain has nothing to do with more knowledge of star wars? Typical imbecile..
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Well I won't say "he started it" because there's too many incompetent nerds on this forum so I'll get back on topic. It has been shown that Luke, though he's older, will take down a younger Kun. Now if the fanboys want to get all angry because their hero isn't as uber powerful as their wet dreams would have allowed, then it's really not my fault is it.
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funny how you say you won't continue insulting and in the same post insult people...
Also funny how nothing has been proven as a definite yet, and you aren't the one arguing yet you come here like you know all. You are depending on other people to argue for you, and you draw your conclusions before the debate is even finished, or worse you have claimed these things long before the debate even started without knowing shit. You are a fanboy yourself, and it would be a smart thing to stop saying things like this. You aren't going to sound smart, all you're doing is pissing people off.
Registered: Feb 2005
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I think you missed the point: while Nai has raised a better constructed and lengthier argument than you EVER have, nothing is "established". Such as his point that the dark side is a "quicker" path to power. Well, in a sense that is true. But it does not produce power where there is none. Even when Kun embraces the dark side, it says explicitly that it's drawing on hate already there. Likewise, woot has brought up a damn good point- that even if DN Luke is superior (through sheer demonstration of lightsaber and force feats) the fact remains that Kun accomplished a level of power that Luke didn't possess until way into middle age. You've brought up the point of Luke reaching his potential (Which you insist on throwing in there even when we supposively "establish" that potential is moot) but you've skirted the fact that Kun's potential was likely far from filled, and he is still comparable with the venerable Luke Skywalker for sheer power and skill. Hell, everything he did was within a very short timespan and with very little training.
Meh, I'm going to stop right here. I have been putting off setting forth a good thought out and supported argument and I'm not going to do it right now.
one thing, how the hell is that a good point? What does it even have to do with anything? Even if it took him nine hundred years it wouldn't have made him weaker. And what does it matter how long he trains before he's more powerful then Kun? It doesn't. For all we know Kun reached his potential and Luke isn't half way there, or the other way around. I really don't see the relevance to any of this in a vs fight.
The character his strength matters not how long it took him or her to reach it.
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Congrats, he constructed a better argument based on my feats... But yea lets downplay my post since it's the best you could do at this point. Again, we do not know Kun's potential, whoever said it was like trying to figure out Anakin's. We know that Luke did more with less access to anything, created emerald lightning, was the first as we know to manipulate black holes, etc... Granted yes Kun created his own lightsaber technique and the double sided saber. I'm not arguing that Kun sucks, he's one of the best, but you're just downplaying Luke's achievements and abilities while exaggerating Kun's when you say "Oh well Kun did blah blah blah in less time". Luke also managed to defeat the most powerful enemies of his era, while staying alive..
And fishy, good point.
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Exactly. And if Luke had been training since he was as young as Exar did, it is likely that he would have become as powerful as he is in DN a lot earlier. Also Kun had access to a lot of artifacts that greatly multiplied his power in the force, and it is not clear whether he would have ever become as powerful as he did with the artifacts.
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It's a good point because while everyone's taking turns blowing Luke for his sheer skillz (and btw, I love how consistant Luke really is... He's being tossed from author to author, coming up with force powers literally out of his ass) the guy -supposively- has ALL this force knowledge and experience and time to work and study and train...
And Kun spends a few months and WTFpwns every force user of his time.
Tdtd was arguing potential, which is why I brought the point up. While I thought we had agreed that potential is a useless trait, he continues to bring it up whenever he gets the chance. And that's really irritating, hearing someone get all wound up over the "reached potential" of someone who's going to be sixty. It'd be like someone bragging about Yoda reaching his full potential over Anakin. WTF?
I think Nai raises an argument worth examining. I don't think tdtd has, and he's really just out to piss everyone else off.
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