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Count Dooku and Quinlan Vos VS Sora Bulq and Asajj Ventress
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Count Dooku and Quinlan Vos VS Sora Bulq and Asajj Ventress

No Holds barred.

In the middle of the Geonosian Arena.


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WTF Sorgo, did you mean to have Dooku and Vos on the same side or did you mean for it to be Dooku alone vs. the three of them? Cause if Vos is on Dooku's side he holds off Sora while Dooku pwns Asajj and then Dooku and Vos wtf pwn Sora Bulq in three seconds.


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Errr... this fight is actually pretty one-sided...


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WTF Sorgo, did you mean to have Dooku and Vos on the same side or did you mean for it to be Dooku alone vs. the three of them? Cause if Vos is on Dooku's side he holds off Sora while Dooku pwns Asajj and then Dooku and Vos wtf pwn Sora Bulq in three seconds.



Are you kidding me? Vos, Bulq and Asajj on one side? They'd kick the shit out of Dooku. Quinlan almost killed Mace, Sora was a Vapaad practitioner and Asajj pwned Kenobi, Fisto and nearly Anakin.

By the way: Quinlan wouldn't hold off Sora. He'd kill Sora. He's done it before.


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Fine...

ROTJ LUKE REPLACES DOOKU


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Are you kidding me? Vos, Bulq and Asajj on one side? They'd kick the shit out of Dooku. Quinlan almost killed Mace, Sora was a Vapaad practitioner and Asajj pwned Kenobi, Fisto and nearly Anakin.

Are you on drugs? You think Dooku'd pwn Grievus, Kit and ROTS Obi-Wan but Asajj, Sora and Vos would kick his ass? Quinlan never almost killed Mace, Mace made fun of him the entire duel and then Vos used one Vaapad move and Mace put him flat on his ass.

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By the way: Quinlan wouldn't hold off Sora. He'd kill Sora. He's done it before.

The why the **** did you put him and Dooku on the same side? Did you think Asajj was gonna beat Dooku?

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ROTJ LUKE REPLACES DOOKU

Ah, that's better! Which Asajj is this?


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Are you on drugs? You think Dooku'd pwn Grievus, Kit and ROTS Obi-Wan but Asajj, Sora and Vos would kick his ass? Quinlan never almost killed Mace, Mace made fun of him the entire duel and then Vos used one Vaapad move and Mace put him flat on his ass.


Okay, we have to SERIOUSLY clean some shit up here.

No, Mace and him seriously got involved and Mace was on the defensive the entire fight. Quinlan used a maneuver that would have killed Mace if Mace did not use Force push. Mace was trying to stop Quinlan because he was out of control, and Vos nearly killed Mace in the process.

I have the comic RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF MY EYES!

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The why the **** did you put him and Dooku on the same side? Did you think Asajj was gonna beat Dooku?


Nah, I wasn't thinking right.

Although Quinlan, Sora and Asajj would all kill Dooku with difficulty.




[/quote]Ah, that's better! Which Asajj is this? [/quote]

Then why not ask what Dooku? Or what Sora? Or what Quinlan?

It's Obsession Asajj.


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Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Are you kidding me? Vos, Bulq and Asajj on one side? They'd kick the shit out of Dooku.


This picture says otherwise:

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There goes the best - or the second best - of the trio. I doubt a crazed Vos and the admittedly lethal Asajj can take out the guy who floored Kenobi and Skywalker at the same time.

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Quinlan almost killed Mace, Sora was a Vapaad practitioner and Asajj pwned Kenobi, Fisto and nearly Anakin.


. . . You're kidding, right? It was a sparring match intended to help Vos release his bottled up emotions and fill the Jedi in about his complex involvment in Dooku's plots. He surprised Mace by utilizing a Vaapad technique, but Mace realized it by Quinlan's change in stance a moment before; Vos wouldn't have touched Mace.

And Asajj would be a nigh match for Kenobi, yes; and we saw how easily Dooku fended him off. Not to mention that she didn't pwn Fisto; it was described as a dazzling battle that Obi-Wan would have ''his right hand'' to join - or even watch.

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By the way: Quinlan wouldn't hold off Sora. He'd kill Sora. He's done it before.


You're ignoring the fact that Bulq was busy tossing Quinlan's ass across the room with brutal kicks, saber strikes, and Force-pushes for the duration of their fight. It was only until the Jedi fell to his knees and cleared his mind - with the assistance of Aayla and Tholme - that he was able to slay Sora. And that was with a backwards slash at an opening left by Bulq's carelessness; he thought he'd won, and he might as well have.

Anyway, if the fight is as it was, Bulq and Asajj get WTFpwned. If you switch out Dooku for Luke, it goes the other way. Either Sora or Asajj beat the crap out of him, while the other batters Quinlan. Then, the two Dark acolytes own Quinlan. . .

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No, Mace and him seriously got involved and Mace was on the defensive the entire fight. Quinlan used a maneuver that would have killed Mace if Mace did not use Force push. Mace was trying to stop Quinlan because he was out of control, and Vos nearly killed Mace in the process.

I don't know what comic that is. The one you made yourself? Anyways, please read Jedi: Mace Windu.
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Then why not ask what Dooku? Or what Sora? Or what Quinlan?

Which Dooku it is wouldn't make a difference. Which Sora is is wouldn't make a difference, cause isn't he only in the Clone Wars books and comics? Okay, what Quinlan?


Anyway, Obsession Asajj could probably beat Luke. Quinlan and Sora could go either way. I give it to Asajj and Bulq's team, though, but it'd be extremely close.


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Obsession Asajj would own the crap out Skywalker as of RotJ. . .

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Vos, Bulq, and Ventress were Dooku's bitches...


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Obsession Asajj would own the crap out Skywalker as of RotJ. . .

Well, we both think she'd win anyways. Lets keep it at that.


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Originally posted by Faunus
This picture says otherwise:

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There goes the best - or the second best - of the trio. I doubt a crazed Vos and the admittedly lethal Asajj can take out the guy who floored Kenobi and Skywalker at the same time.


Wow. That's funny.

Niether Vos or Asajj are in that picture.





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. . . You're kidding, right? It was a sparring match intended to help Vos release his bottled up emotions and fill the Jedi in about his complex involvment in Dooku's plots. He surprised Mace by utilizing a Vaapad technique, but Mace realized it by Quinlan's change in stance a moment before; Vos wouldn't have touched Mace.


He outsmarted Mace and the maneuver nearly tagged Mace if not for a day-saving Force push that swept Quinlan aside. Either way, Quinlan would have hurt Mace if not for that push.

They were sparring with Lightsabers and Mace was virtually forced to push him or he would have lost something.



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And Asajj would be a nigh match for Kenobi, yes; and we saw how easily Dooku fended him off. Not to mention that she didn't pwn Fisto; it was described as a dazzling battle that Obi-Wan would have ''his right hand'' to join - or even watch.


A dazzling battle that - in the end- ended with Asajj defeating Kit.





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You're ignoring the fact that Bulq was busy tossing Quinlan's ass across the room with brutal kicks, saber strikes, and Force-pushes for the duration of their fight. It was only until the Jedi fell to his knees and cleared his mind - with the assistance of Aayla and Tholme - that he was able to slay Sora. And that was with a backwards slash at an opening left by Bulq's carelessness; he thought he'd won, and he might as well have.


They showed Quinlan the way to the Light side. It's not like they were there helping him defeat Sora or helping him through the Force. Aayla was showing him the Light side. and Quinlan turned around and f*cked Sora up who was on the defense at the time. There was no suprise. Quinlan outmaneuvered Sora. And Quinlan did damn good throughout the battle.


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I don't know what comic that is. The one you made yourself? Anyways, please read Jedi: Mace Windu.



Obviously, you have no Comic Knowledge, DS19.

Go read “Schism”.

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Which Dooku it is wouldn't make a difference. Which Sora is is wouldn't make a difference, cause isn't he only in the Clone Wars books and comics? Okay, what Quinlan?


I can easily say the same thing.

Which Asajj it is wouldn't make a difference.




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Anyway, Obsession Asajj could probably beat Luke. Quinlan and Sora could go either way. I give it to Asajj and Bulq's team, though, but it'd be extremely close.


If this is Quinlan Light sided, Sora loses. Asajj may have trouble with Luke, but she'd end up winning.


Quinlan and Asajj then.


In which case I think Quinlan would throw her down.

We've seen him take on similar women in the past, like when he took one around Six to Eight Lightsaber wielding Witches and a thousand year old Dark Jedi.


Asajj loses.


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Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Wow. That's funny.

Niether Vos or Asajj are in that picture.


Yet Sora - the ''Vaapad practioner'' - got put on his ass by a blast of lightning, and Tholme got pwned seconds later by Dooku bring the ceiling down onto his head. Ever wonder why Tholme looks so f*cked up? With Force power like that, I can see Dooku taking these three out.

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He outsmarted Mace and the maneuver nearly tagged Mace if not for a day-saving Force push that swept Quinlan aside. Either way, Quinlan would have hurt Mace if not for that push.

They were sparring with Lightsabers and Mace was virtually forced to push him or he would have lost something.


I repeat: it was a sparring match intended to help Quinlan express himself to the Jedi Masters present. If you've read When They Were Brothers, we see Anakin and Obi-Wan spar on a Star Destroyer; they're not actually trying to best one another, they're trying to rid themselves of their frustration - well, Obi-Wan, at any rate.

Windu wasn't expecting Quinlan to utilize Vaapad in a friendly match, especially not the way he used it. By your logic, since Anakin nearly killed Dooku with a horizontal swing when they reached the stairs, he could easily challenge him under normal circumstances.


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A dazzling battle that - in the end- ended with Asajj defeating Kit.


My point was that it was close; and considering you argued against Obi-Wan (repulsed Ventress twice on his own), Kit Fisto (challenged Ventress and was considered to surpass Kenobi in the beginning of the CW), and Grievous. ( . . . )

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And Quinlan turned around and f*cked Sora up who was on the defense at the time. There was no surprise. Quinlan outmaneuvered Sora. And Quinlan did damn good throughout the battle.


You sure you have the comic right in front of you? how about a scan, then?

Vos was on his knees, and Sora had his lightsaber over his head. If guy ready to cleave someone in half looks defensive to you. . .

Outmaneuvered? You mean spun around and haphazardly slashed him under the arm?

And if doing good means taking kicks and Force pushes for the duration of the fight, then yeah, he did freakin' amazing.

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What kind of fight is this? Luke gets owned by Ventress within a few seconds and then Vos gets the crap kicked out of him by Sora and Assaj...

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Yet Sora - the ''Vaapad practioner'' - got put on his ass by a blast of lightning, and Tholme got pwned seconds later by Dooku bring the ceiling down onto his head. Ever wonder why Tholme looks so f*cked up? With Force power like that, I can see Dooku taking these three out.


Just like he took out Anakin? Wow.


Tholme? Is Tholme in this battle? I didn't realize I included him.






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I repeat: it was a sparring match intended to help Quinlan express himself to the Jedi Masters present. If you've read When They Were Brothers, we see Anakin and Obi-Wan spar on a Star Destroyer; they're not actually trying to best one another, they're trying to rid themselves of their frustration - well, Obi-Wan, at any rate.


Naturally, In a sparring match, the objective isn't to lose, Faunus. It is to overpower the other opponent. Competing. Testing who's skill is better and who needs work.

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Windu wasn't expecting Quinlan to utilize Vaapad in a friendly match, especially not the way he used it. By your logic, since Anakin nearly killed Dooku with a horizontal swing when they reached the stairs, he could easily challenge him under normal circumstances.[/quote[

By your logic, Mace didn't utilize Vapaad at all, considering it was a friendly match and according to your "Logic", Vapaad can't be used in a friendly match.

If Mace can't expect a move he created, that's his problem. And Quinlan did it fine. He used ONE move that nearly took Mace out. And Mace taught him the maneuver.




[quote]My point was that it was close; and considering you argued against Obi-Wan (repulsed Ventress twice on his own), Kit Fisto (challenged Ventress and was considered to surpass Kenobi in the beginning of the CW), and Grievous. ( . . . )



Meh, not close enough. A winner is a winner. I'm sure closeness mattered when Maul's two halves fell down a shaft.



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You sure you have the comic right in front of you? how about a scan, then?


What the hell? Not everyone has scanners.

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Vos was on his knees, and Sora had his lightsaber over his head. If guy ready to cleave someone in half looks defensive to you. . .


Too bad he was unable to do it, considering Quinlan turned around and killed him. Vos outsmarted and outmaneuvered Sora. Quinlan won because Quinlan lived, sorry to say.

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Outmaneuvered? You mean spun around and haphazardly slashed him under the arm?


That's EXACTLY what I meant. Sora didn't have the speed nor the awarness and reaction to defend against it, even as he tried.

Yes. Slashed him under the arm . . . Winning and proving himself better and faster.

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And if doing good means taking kicks and Force pushes for the duration of the fight, then yeah, he did freakin' amazing.



If doing bad means walking out of the fight alive as your opponent lay on the ground in a pool of his own blood due to shoddy attribution, then Quinlan sucks balls.


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Just like he took out Anakin? Wow.


Not sure what you're getting at here. . .

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Tholme? Is Tholme in this battle? I didn't realize I included him.


Lord. . . it was an example.

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Naturally, In a sparring match, the objective isn't to lose, Faunus. It is to overpower the other opponent. Competing. Testing who's skill is better and who needs work.


a. To fight with an opponent in a short bout or practice session, as in boxing or the martial arts.
b. To make boxing or fighting motions without hitting one's opponent.


You're not trying to defeat your opponent in a friendly sparring match, Sorgo. Were Anakin an Obi-Wan trying to beat the crap out of eachother in their sparring match? No. Was Kit Fisto trying to ''overpower'' the clone captains on Ord Cestus? Was Mace Windu trying to ''test'' himself against Quinlan Vos? Hell, Mace even said that fighting is a form of expression; you have the comic.

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Meh, not close enough. A winner is a winner. I'm sure closeness mattered when Maul's two halves fell down a shaft.[/B]


It did, considering that could have been Obi-Wan had Maul been less stupid. . .

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What the hell? Not everyone has scanners.


Then you have quotes; use them.

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Too bad he was unable to do it, considering Quinlan turned around and killed him. Vos outsmarted and outmaneuvered Sora. Quinlan won because Quinlan lived, sorry to say.


I don't see where this is going.

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That's EXACTLY what I meant. Sora didn't have the speed nor the awarness and reaction to defend against it, even as he tried.

Yes. Slashed him under the arm . . . Winning and proving himself better and faster.


Vos was beat, Sorgo. Since you seem to like your Maul analogies. . .

Maul had Obi-Wan at his mercy; hanging from a little knob. Sora had Vos at his mercy; on his knees, lightsaber down. Just as Maul didn't expect Kenobi to pop up an own him, Sora didn't expect Vos to gather himself and pwn him. If that makes Obi-Wan legitamately better and faster than Maul, I don't know what to say.

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If doing bad means walking out of the fight alive as your opponent lay on the ground in a pool of his own blood due to shoddy attribution, then Quinlan sucks balls.


Don't try to turn this around, Sorgo. You avoided the point. While Quinlan Vos won in the end (much like Kenobi against Maul), he did so from a point of virtual defeat (much like Kenobi against Maul), and after being tossed around like a doll the duration of the battle. But unlike Kenobi and Maul, Vos didn't manage to land a single good blow on Sora; Obi-Wan slashed Maul's saber in two and put him on his ass, while Vos did. . . what, exactly?

Quinlan came back impressively, but he was more or less done for.

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Luke replaces Dooku? Then Sora or Asajj fends off Vos while the other beats Luke, then together they'd pwn Vos.


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Meh, not close enough. A winner is a winner.

So suddenyl you're willing to admit Anakin beat Dooku.


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