I think it's been done before. In a lightsaber battle it's pretty even but I would give the match to Mace because of his shatterpoint. In the force, Exar Kun is superior to Mace. In an overall battle, it would go either way with Exar Kun winning more times than not.
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Hmm. Agreed.
Thats a really good way of looking at it, Sexy...
I agree that Mace could use Shatterpoint to beat Kun, but, Kun is more powerful, at least by some, than RotS Sidious, and Mace did beat Sidious, but not with much to spare, know what I mean?
So Im thinking that If Exar is just so many notches above Sidious in power, than Mace may not be able to bridge the gap with his Vapaad.
Shatterpoint isn't that effective. Mace even has difficulty employing it in battles, I'd say Exar is his slight superior in terms of saber combat, quite a bit stronger in the force, plus he has sith magic. Mace can't win this one, in my eyes.
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With his amulet, Kun easily wins. In a just plain saber fight, I would Mace takes it BARELY. However, in the Force, exar wins. Overall, Exar beats up Windu.
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Mace, he has the shatterpoint thing. He's pretty damn fast so even if Kun does have his amulet, Mace can dodge the blasts. In terms of the saber, Mace is probably second to Luke, with Kun being third.
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Kun blasts Mace's face with the amulets or force chokes him. Considering that Kun can force choke Odan-Urr, a millenia old Jedi Master who knows more than Mace could ever hope to know, and virtually WTFpwned Vodo in lightsaber combat, Mace stands a very slim chance. Especially when you consider that Mace nearly died in Shatterpoint to a Force User who was untrained, and the circumstances of his victory over Sidious in RotS are debatable. Hardly concrete proof of his Shatterpoint.
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Still, a crash course from Mace's pupil shouldn't make someone able to contend with the second most badass in the Order. Obviously Mace is not able to just overcome anybody with Shatterpoint. And since Kun makes Kar look like a pussycat, I give the match to Kun.
Uh force abilities clearly go to Kun..But what does Kun beating Vodo have to do with him beating Mace in a saber fight? Unless of course you're going to parade around with your theory of how Vodo>Yoda and how he was the imaginary grandmaster. Mace>>>>Vodo.And Mace's victory over Sidious is NOT debateable, it was very clear in the ROTS commentary and ROTS Novelization. Don't make up stuff because it suits your argument..Not to mention Mace has the force crush ability...In fact I don't even know where you're coming from with your argument.
Kun makes Kar look like a pussycat? I'm glad this is your opinion Janus.
how about more likely Kun gets his ass handed him to him since he's noticeably not as big, strong or agile as Kar fighting in a jungle bare handed?
And Odan Ur showed...what power? None? He was completely useless in the Hyperspace War with hearsay alone? Whilst Kun has...what going for him? Last I checked, Mace can resist telekenisis.
He has what exactly? Amulets that have never been used against a half-decent force user? Little stills of him fighting totally unknown people?
No, I'll go with the guy who dismantles small armies with his bare hands and throws Kun's own darkside power back in his face
Now I wouldn't say Odan-Urr showed nothing, I mean wasn't he a master of battle meditation and the force blocking technique?
He was stated to have 'remained keeper of antiquities for six centuries, and in those years extensively researched into jedi and sith lore', in other words he was somewhat of a jedi historian, and I think it's safe to say that he knew a hell of a lot of other jedi techniques due to his nature, the amount of time he had and how much knowledge was available at the time.
He was also able to foresee that the ancient sith empire still existed in a dream, pretty impressive imo.
And he was said to have fought the ancient sith, and the only reason Kun was able to kill him so easily was because he was too old imo. I mean he was even able to instantl sense the darkness in Kun and force push him across the floor moments before, I'd say that's pretty impressive.
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