Well, he does have marka Ragnos's gloves, Tulak Hord's mask and holocro, Naga Sadow's poison sword, and Ajunita Pall's sword. Seems pretty overpowered to me.
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the sword was given to uthar, the mask cant be worn due to his lightside ness and so as the gloves, he cant wear them either, he problably sold them or gave them away,
Since when did your gameplay experince apply to everyone else? KOTOR2 says Revan kept the sword(Dark Side) or its where abouts are a mystery(Lightside) which can most likely be assumed he kept it, since even Carth in KOTOR 1 warns Revan not to give such a powerful tool to Uthar.
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The dark side story is NOT canon and therefore he was a lightsider and therefore that means he gave the sword to uthar.
So what if carth warned revan not to give it to uthar? canonically revan gave it to uthar. point proven
Once again NOWHERE does it say he gave the sword to Uthar, Stop pulling BS out your ass. Canon says the sword whereabouts are a mystery (Kreia in KOTOR 2) Revan most likely kept it or destroyed it like the good little Jedi he was at the time, no way in hell would he give such a powerful tool to Uthar, even Carth Onasi could see the idiocy in that. Stop with your blind hate of a fictional character, it only serves to make you look like more of a loser.
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yes but you claim he kept it, am im telling you he didnt, how do you even know he kept it? By the way, a jedi would NEVER keep a dark side tool, they rather destroy it, common sense says this, if mace windu was to stumble upon exars amulet would he keep it? no, he would destroy it
I agree slightly. For example DE Sidious, DN Luke, Ragnos are above him. Other than that, I would put Nihilus as being more or less equal to Revan, due to his force drain. Regardless, Revan earned more of a *wow* factor from Traya. She tutored both, but it seems she was more impressed by Revan. Bane is around Revan's abilities, I would say, after reading PoD and playing KOTOR.
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well Nihilus is definately above revan, Kreia hated nihilus and wanted him to be stopped because he has no purpose, all he do is kill and destroy life, She is also pissed that nihilus cut her off from the force
and from what nihilus can do its nihilus >>> revan. He force pushed kreia and then pow, she gets weakened and cut off from the force
Traya also hated Revan. He betrayed her by turning to the darkside. She also mentioned that Revan was one of the worst student she ever trained (in a philosophical sense, most likely drawn out by negative emotions towards Revan).
She still continues to lavish praise on him. I would not state that there is any bias if she hates him for his ideals.
He drained a planet, fair enough...but again... from evidence it is clear that he needs to weaken his opponent before he can initiate the attack. That is why he did not straight away annihialate Taris. He needed to weaken it with his ships. I would classify that as definately a powerful feat, but it isn't something that can be applicable instantly in a duel.
Also, he needed to duel Canderous, Exile, and Visas before he could use the attack. If he had the ability to immediately feast on the trio, he would have done so, due to his "great hunger."
I cannot see him weakening a force user who posseses great mastery of both sides of the force(Bane could hardly wrap his mind around the awesome potential of the attacks Revan knew. Malak stated that Revan's abilities in the light surpassed his abilities in the dark). It's a distinct possibility that Revan could defeat Nihilus before the latter has a chance to pull a force drain.
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sigh kreia admired revan, she hated nihlus
This really annoys me, did he have to weaken katarr before he drained the planet? prove to me he needs to prepare the drain, what bull sh!t is that,(no offense) just because he stunned the exiles party? for fu*ks sake he knew the exile had a connection to kreia and he also knew that visas with them, in the cut content video it showed that nihilus drain was instant, nihilus didnt expect sion to attack him, he realised that when sion ignited his lightsaber
since when he had to duel the trio before he used the drain? He did it to the exile because she allowed him too?
And what can revan do to an instant force drain? Nothing proves that nihilus needs to prepare his drain, Malak knew force drain and yet it was instant, Kyle katarn knows drain yet it was also instant, Revan and jaden korr both had drain and yet they are instant.What is there to say that nihilus isnt? kreia instantly killed 3 jedi masters and she is well aware that nihilus drain greatly surpasses hers? also not to forget Nihilus used the force to hold his ship together. He was on malachor, the ship was in orbit, he could have used the force to pull the ship on to the surface.Also revan CANNOT counter with his form of drain due to nihilus being a wound in the force as stated by visas marr.
look i do know you love revan as i love vader but you got to accept when there is a stronger sith than revan as i accept that sidious is better than vader. Kreia already mentioned "he has come to master the greatest of the sith teachings" and she didnt say revan did
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He doesn't have to. Depending on the terrain, he could launch a force storm to 'distract', harm or possibly kill Nihilus.
Also, if Nihilus was capable of an "all encompassing drain that pwns all instantly" then why didn't he immediately try it against the trio on board The Ravager? He had to duel them all first, after which Visas cries "he is too strong!"
Since we can logically infer (based on several instances of in game evidence) that Nihilus needs to weaken his opponents, I want you to prove, that Nihilus can simply do it instantaneously. Otherwise I go by the most reliable evidence, which currently points at Nihilus being unable to do the attack instantaneously.
Also it should be noted that there are different forms of force drain. The powerful type that Nihilus uses (the one that is almost impossible to defend against) seems to require concentration on his part, and vulnerability from his victim.
Bane mentioned it in PoD, Revan's mastery in the darkside. Revan possessed far more knowledge then the entire academies during PoD. His powers were described as having awesome potential. Darth Malak stated Revan's lightside powers were even greater.
Traya spoke enormously of Revan's potential. With PoD we know it ain't bullshit.
As you can see, there is no "bullshit" reasoning behind my argument on Revan. It is all facts and evidence.
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And would nihilus be stupid enough to be "distracted" as i said, nihilus never toys with his opponents, he kills them, Drains them
Again you are lying, nihilus was weakened during the fight
and he drained the exile before they started fighting
you have yet to prove he needed to prepare his drain, Show me a source where it said he needed to. In the cut content video, he didnt "weaken" sion before draining him, he did it instantly strait away,The comic also showed him draining the planet instantly without "weakening" them, Try again
Drain is Drain, its how much mastery you have of it
That doesnt mean revan can defend against a drain, Hell nihilus could just cut him off from the force as he did to traya.
only people who has a defense against nihilus drains are, Luke skywalker,The fallanasi,Supreme overlord shimrra and the exile, NO others.
Its not a fact when you make shit up saying that nihilus needs to weaken his opponents before draining them,NOTHING can prove that,
You missed my point... I was saying that if Nihilus proceeds to use some simple version of force drain, then Revan would undoubtedly counterattack with his own arsenal of force skils. You're saying that Revan is sitting on his lap, letting Nihilus drain him. No, the two are blasting each other with the force.
Absolutely not. They both dueled. Afterwards, Nihilus tried to drain the Exile. I wouldn't lie to defend Revan. I like him, but not THAT much.
I have proved it based on logical inference.
When he was attacking Taris, he needed to send his ships to attack the planet. He also had to have the inhabitants of his planet invade the planet. If he could just instantly pwn the planet, he would have done, if for the sole reason to satisfy his unending hunger.
Also, during their duel, Nihilus had to weaken Canderous, Visas, and Exile first before draining them. Afterwards, all three are "stunned" (white spirals encircling the three) and he tries to drain the Exile. He recoils afterwards.
So as you can see, through inference, Nihilus needs to weaken his opponent before draining.
Cut content ISN'T CANON. [Hint]: It wasn’t included in the game.
Point moot.
Not really. Regular drain is an attack that you can pull off without much delay. Nihilus needs to weaken his opponent first, as I have shown above. Exar Kun needed to be tied to a post in order to drain all the Massassi.
All you have to do is use that brain of yours. Different types of drain.
Right because he can simply cut Revan off from the force, when Revan was clearly admitted by Traya as possessing more potential and force power than she?Despite Bane’s apparent heaps of praise upon knowing the powers Revan possess? Despite Malak’s admission that Revan’s lightside powers are far greater than anything Revan possessed as DLOTS? Ah yes, and defeating an empowered (by an age old darkside artifact) Malak at least twice would certainly help quantify his sheer power in the force.
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I would like you to prove this
Not really. Don’t be daft. Logical inference can pass as proof, given that the premises aren’t faulty. Each time Nihilus uses his force drain techniques, he needs to weaken his opponents first.
It’s funny that you are calling me a fanboy, when all you state is Nihilus ZOMG THE DRAIN. Nihilus fanboy. You have asserted without an inch of valid proof that Nihilus can simply pull of his drain instantaneously.
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since when nihilus ever been to taris? you mean telos right? Did he send a fleet of ships to the miraluka world of katarr?
no, he went there with the ravager, alone and drained them instantly
, Your evidence is not concrete enough. He drains the exile when she breaks free. There are so many reasons why he could have stunned the party, one of them is to intimidate them, hell he was suppose to suspend them in the air in the uncut game.
, point moot, it still showed the extent of nihilus powers
, , wrong again, HE drained the whole world of katarr without weakening them stop making shit up.That canon comic backs up the cut content video that he doesnt need to prepare his drain, so did kreia prepare her drain on dantooine? Because it was insta kill did she prepare or weaken them? no, and she is well aware nihilus master of drain triumphs her
, So? emperor palpatine also got cut off from the force by the 3 skywalkers and note that pal is far more powerful than revan can ever be. And nihilus gave kreia a simple push to weaken her. Ulic also got cut of from the force and he was just as powerful as exar kun in the book of DLOTS
, remember the loading screen? when you reach the ravager it said "the master was trapped on malachor V and he pulled the ravager from orbit" something like that, And either colonol tobin or visas mentioned the ship was hold together by the will of nihilus
, Again you fail to prove this that he needs to prepare his drain. He drained an entire planet without weakening them. stop making this shit up
the thing is, you are, and you your self hasnt prove anything to me yet, you are a fanboy of revan, you cannot accept the fact nihilus is above him, Kreia feared nihilus
i forgot to say, how does luke, shimrra, the fallanasi and the exile defend agaisnt nihilus drian? Luke can remove himself from the force, a technique he learnt from the fallanasi, shimrra is a yuuzhan vong and they exist outside the force, while the exile is a wound in the force, not fully connected i think
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