Bane in his prime would take down Revan. I would say very few could take down down Bane in his prime. Possibly DE Sidious and Luke Skywalker as of NJO, and maybe Nihilus because of his uber drain...
Bane as of BOTS can use the force to telekenetically manipulate objects of planetary magnitudes. His Orbalisks supply him with adrenaline and make him physically invincible to lightsaber blows. It was also mentioned that he was capable of regenerating from wounds caused by lightsaber blows.
In lightsaber battles, he moves so much faster than the eyes can see, which is similar to the speeds that Leia viewed Luke and Palpatine dueling at. He also trumped a lightsaber master whom spent decades perfecting each form in "round one." With Orbalisks continuously supplying adrenaline, his strength and speed would logically go up.
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Revan would whoop bane. And who the fu(k ever stated bane could move faster than the eye can see? Thats pure bullshit , Each orbalisk scale weighs him down
Karapshyn put that down. Argue with him if you wish.
And you totally ignore the fact that they constantly supply adrenaline, the hormone which allows the body+mind to go into "hyperdrive," substantially increasing physical performance. This all, of course means, he becomes substantially stronger and faster than he ever was without them.
Hell, even if Bane did not have the force, he would be supernaturally fit and strong. The constant pumping of adrenaline would probably give him the ability to perform supernatural feats of power, aka Captain America.
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That was only for a brief second zephiel, If bane could move faster than the eye can see why didnt he defeat kasim? O but he can move faster than the eye can see what, wow im impressed he couldnt defeat and instead was going to get ownd by kasim.
And you totally ignore the fact that the DSSB stated each scale weighs 1kg and the more you have, the more it slows you down and banes entir body was covered with it, True his body got faster with the adrenaline, But theres a side effect, The orbalisks limits his speed
Kadesh, did it ever occur to you that Kas'im was also moving at comparative speeds? Bane was winning "round one" either way you look around it...Kas'im even admits as much. Round two Kas'im was winning because he knew Bane inside out, whereas Bane knew nothing about the style Kas'im was employing.
Only the original orbalisks were 1kg. The orbalisks that "budded" later were far less in weight. I looked at them, the majority of them were less than 1/23rd of the size of the original parent, meaning less than 1/23rd of 1kg. In total I would approximate maybe 35 to 60 extra lbs, which means one thing: jack shit in the weight department, considering:
Each orbalisk pumps in adrenaline and strength. If we are talking maybe 500 orbalisks, then that would mean 500 times as much adrenaline. That would make him capable of supernatural feats of strength and speed, even without the force. Compound that with his extraordinary abilities in the force (able to manipulate moons with TK, tear through the walls of the Rakatan temple, and punch its foundations even after an exhausting duel ) physical invincibility and regenerative capabilities...I do not see how Revan wins.
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What do you think that Revan was doing on Star Forge? Was he slow or something?
He had to be very fast in-order to dodge grenade attacks from many Elite Sith Troops. He had to be very strong in the Force to pawn all the Dark Jedi and Elite Troopers that he was facing. He had to be very consious to protect his allies from becoming victims in such a long and hard fight.
Do you see the Logic now. Revan can over-power and defeat Bane.
Dude, I think Revan is fast. I never said he wasn't. But faster than Bane? Where do you get that idea?
Or push it back. This is not really an effective point to back up your argument. They are just Sith troops, not even force sensitive.
The "dark Jedi" he was facing were cronies. Kyle Katarn faced off against several groups of no-named dark Jedi, some armoured with cortosis even. Does that make him able to defeat an opponent that "just" falls short of being physically invincible to even direct lightsaber blows and whose regenerative capabilities instantly repair him from wounds?
If Bane were forced to fight those dark Jedi aboard the star forge, I can very much see him wtfdestroying them. Same with DE Sidious or NJO Luke.
Your point? How much were there with him? Would they not be able to defend for themselves?
Bane's force powers are nothing short of incredible. How is Revan going to overcome his defenses? Especially one that is resistant to direct lightsaber blows and covers nearly all his body, also regenerating him from direct wounds?
Not to mention his host of other abilities, one of which involves TK'ing planetary bodies.
Kyle Katarn's achievements were different, Zephiel. He was a neophyte with virtually no ability, and yet he managed to take down some of the Emperor's finest dark Jedi - including Sariss and Jerec (who possessed the power of the Valley - which imbued him with enough strength to wipe out a solar system).
Advent's proved this to death, he's very well among the very best swordsmen.
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No, because DK clearly wrote down there that they were fighting at speeds visible, not faster than the eye could see
1/23 the size? Are you kidding me?
His Entire body was covered with orbalisks and each scale no matter how small still has weight, and his entire body is covered with them, yes he may be fast but what about his agility? His reflexs?
Doesnt the orbalisk restrict that?
Bullshit, when has bane ever pulled the goddam moon? This shit keeps getting refuted time and over again, he only planned to do so but did we see him do it? Who knows? There were so many undamaged ships on dxun that he could have used . And by what you are saying it sounds like Zomg bane > palpatine, Bane would piss in his pants if he had met revan
Revan's knowledge base is definitely superior to Bane's, this is fact. On that alone I would give the fight to Revan, not to mention the majority of everything Bane knows(if not everything), is attributed to Revan, meaning Revan knows the techniques as well.
Knowledge isn't everything, I'm of the belief that actual strength with the force is far far greater than knowledge of multiple techniques, and by BotS, Bane's knowledge base it pretty considerable too, having learned from both Revan's holocron and the holocron in Nadd's tomb.
Hah, no. Go to the "Bane nuged a moon 11!!!111!!" topic me and LS have already proved the little feat the fanbois are creaming their pants over as not that impressive.
Not impressive, he nuged it, and since you can't quantify the feat its really meaningless, How much force energy does it take to move a moon? Was Bane tired after? Could others who are stronger then him duplicate it? Its meningless. The Sea Shells I'm under the impression after multiple blows give way?
No, we've been through this. HE DID IT ONCE, And that was because he had gathered up the force energy to do so the book says it, stop lying.
Thats completely illogical, if Bane was dead tired from a lightsaber duel and force wave then how the f*ck can his heart survive adreanline being pumped CONSTATNLY? What your implying is just stupid, with no down time from his little boost, the dude would have a heart attack, he is still a human, he would suffer from chronic hypertension, and after about a day he'd probaly die. And this is all based on if he himself was the only one producing the Epinephrine (Adernaline) if he has over what 100 beings who constantly produce the chemical, being pumped without limit with no down time he'd die with in an hour(if that) from a heart attack/heart failure.
Yeah for about 5 minuntes as every other real world human can do, with enough adrenaline I could probably lift a car a small amount. If a lightsaber duel got to frantic on the level of Ani v Ob1 or even his Kas'im duel his heart would likely explode(well not explode but just stop)
So what we can conclude that the Sea Shells don't pump it constatnly but in times of duress like a duel, if they did he wouldn't be able to sleep, he wouldn't be able to sit still for longer then five seconds, his eyes would dialated constatnly, and he'd probably go made from being stuck in that state of hyper awareness. Now even in a due, he'd have to be careful it doesn't go on to long, or otherwise his heart would go *poof* All Revan or anyone has to do is simply stall the duel long enough for the Sea Shells to kill him.
Then we have the fact that Revan is stronger then Sea Shells in the force, *see my other topic Post Kotor Revan v Exar and Bane* if we wanna go by your logic that the "Stronger you are in the force the better lightsaber duelist you are" then Revan = Leet in lightsaber skillz too. Also Revan TAUGHT Sea Shells. Revan know everything Bane will pull out and thensome
1. You and Lightsnake didn't prove shit, I just couldn't be bothered to argue against a page long argument with about 100 flaws in it. The fact is, it doesn't take a genius to work out that pulling a moon out of orbit requires much more force than any of the crap that Yoda did, Yoda has never displayed that kind of power, and there have been situations where it would have been beneficial. Face it, the little green muppet sucks ass.
2. That wasn't dark side energy, you obviously have no clue how to interpret literature, the energy was a metaphor representing how much he had held back in their duel, and how desperate he was to go full out and destroy Sirak.
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