Darth Vader's Force power not hindered by his suit?
“Your thoughts betray you,” Plagueis said. “Do you think that Malak’s powers were weakened by Revan’s lightsaber? Bane by being encrusted in orbalisks? Do you think Gravid’s young apprentice was hindered by the prosthesis she was forced to wear after fighting him?”
-Darth Plagueis
Thanks to Azronger's New Darth Tenebrous Respect Thread. I was wondering if this debunks the idea that Vader lost 'some' of his power when he became crippled.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
If it was implied that Gean wouldn't be hindered by her artificial limbs; why would Vader be?
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Eh, lots of PT/OT fanboys have this notion about EU Vader-Anakin.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
I've always believed that Vader's decrease in power was entirely due to psychological reasons, Sidious believed similar as well. That if Vader could overcome his self pitty, depression, and lack of interest in life he would have his full power.
Or maybe Jinn Force-tampered with that midi-chlorian scanner. And he was all this time Anakin's father.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Post of betraying the Jedi Order, killing his wife, and being maimed by kenobi, Anakin was consumed by self loathing and apathy.
In many ways Anakin truly believed his state as Vader was a just punishment for what he had done to his wife, and likely subconsciously did not want to disrupt the status quo of his unofficial self punishment.
At several points in the EU Anakin did in fact use the force to heal his lungs, when this started to progress he was overcome with joy which then in turned caused him to stop feeling self loathing/self pitty. Consequently this caused him to stop healing his lung with the force, and to return to his previous state of self loathing/pitty due to his maimed state of existence (which he was keeping himself in).
In fact Vader could have also had an entirely new Anakin Skywalker body if he wanted (made from his own DNA). In one of the EU stories Vader comes upon a perfect cloning machine, and a perfect clone of his unmaimed body is made. He subsequently kills both
Wasn't it stated in ROTS novel that he doesn't have lungs anymore?
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Well Disney doesnt need to follow GL to the letter. But regardless its pretty obvious he lost potential, otherwise he wouldnt still be taking orders from Palpatine 20-25 years later.
But why is that, though? I don't get it. There is no logic/al reason behind it. Does he have less Force cells or what? Would that mean a giant Force sensitive would be stronger than average-sized Force-users because more Force cells reside in his or her body?
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
What do you mean by "actualized power"? I thought each Force-user has a certain level of Force strength where they learn to manifest it via learning various Force abilities?
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
He means how much power they have at the time, as opposed to raw power/potential.
Imagine Anakin as a large glass of water that's only half full. When he gets injured, the glass becomes smaller but the amount of water inside stays the same more or less. So he might still have the same amount of actualized power, but he lost the potential of what he could have been.