The point I was making is that even back in Alabasta he was strong enough to easily punch through hundred of tons of rock. Which is more than enough to hurt JLU Darkseid.
Superman nor anyone else in DCU(aside from Flash) has fought so fast it's impossible for people to track their movements. Normal people and other heroes/villains easily keep pace with each other. Nobody ever just wonders what's going on because they're fighting too fast to keep up. That's normal in One Piece. And Luffy moves so fast that even people in his range can't keep up with his movements.
Well if you want to play that game people like Bulma and Chi Chi have seen DBZ characters fight and people have spoken and had conversations during fights (despite them being timed in microseconds as early as the 22nd Budoukai)
And Superman and Flash have conversations during running races and such and such
And other such shit, they don't dilute actual feats
Also if heroes/villains can keep pace with eachother (namely Superhuman ones, ofc), then that more or less says alot about how fast they are
EDIT: Short version is low ends are abundant across fiction, they count for nothing
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Last edited by StealthRanger on Jul 3rd, 2014 at 04:22 AM
[QUOTE=14787036]Originally posted by Werewolf582 When lex became president or something, it pissed superman off so much he sent to a different silar system and began destroying planets wirh his bare fist.
Yep pretty much. I dont think it was a different solar system though although I could be wrong.