Lucid Lui
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Upcoming Juggernaut arc in New Excalibur...
http://www.comicbookresources.com/n...tem.cgi?id=8351
quote: "Unredeemed," which runs through issues #13-15, will conclude Tieri's run on the book. The storyline will feature appearances by villains like the Wrecking Crew and The Juggernaut's ex-partner Black Tom, but the arc is really about Cain Marko's villainous past. "One thing that they do in comics that drives me crazy is, and I always use Sabretooth as an example, we know Sabretooth killed eight thousand people in his life, but we're going to put him in a nice new costume with a shiny X on it and everything is okay," Tieri said. "I think that's ridiculous. If Charles Manson said, 'Hey, I'm cool now. I want to help people out,' they're not going to let him out of jail! Why do we think that this works in the comic book world? I don't get it."
Juggernaut may seem heroic to many readers because he's been fighting for the side of right, but some people forget that the source of his super abilities is rooted in pure evil. "People forget that Juggernaut has been the main force, lackey, whatever for Cyttorak, who is a demonic being!" Tieri stated. "Which means he's done a lot of ****ed up shit. He's done a lot of bad things. I don't think people understand the scope of what he's done. I think people have only seen it as Black Tom was the worst of the two; Tom was the more malevolent of the two. We're going to find out that that may not necessarily have been the case."
In addition to learning about Cain Marko's past, readers of "Unredeemed" will also learn about the past of his alter ego. "We will be exploring a lot of things about the history of the Juggernaut itself," Tieri said. "We were always lead to believe that Cain Marko was the only Juggernaut. We will learn exactly what it is that one has to do to become the Juggernaut.
"We will also learn why Onslaught, out of all the villains in the X-Men universe, like Sinister, the Hellfire Club and Apocalypse, why did he go after the Juggernaut first?" Tieri continued. "Why did he see the Juggernaut as such a threat that he went after the Juggernaut before anybody else? We're going to answer those questions."
Because he's been working with heroes like the X-Men and Excalibur, some fans have been referring to the Juggernaut with a new and unflattering nickname. "There is a term that has entered the comic book world which I have to destroy in this arc," Tieri explained. "Some people are starting to refer to the Juggernaut as the 'Huggernaut.' The mere mention of that word makes me throw up in my mouth! There is no reason on Earth that Cain Marko should be referred to as the Huggernaut and at the end of this arc I don't think anybody will be able to utter that phrase ever again."
Some fans of the current, heroic Juggernaut might be worried that Tieri is out to return him to his old, nefarious ways. "I think a lot of fans are concerned that when this arc is over, that he'll go back to being a villain. That might be the case. There is a distinct possibility," Tieri said. "I think the Juggernaut legitimately wants to reform but just because you want something doesn't mean you can do it. When does it become that what you've done in the past is so terrible that you can't be forgiven for it?"
Thank you Frank Tieri.
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Sep 14th, 2006 01:50 AM
HaSon
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I prefer JuggerNOT to Huggernaut.
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Sep 14th, 2006 01:53 AM
Accel
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I prefer Jobbernaut. Just rolls right off the tongue...
Sep 14th, 2006 01:58 AM
Draco69
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Colossus is back. There's no need for Jobbernaut anymore.
Although I liked Juggernaut as a human being instead of an ass who just destroyed things for no reason...
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Sep 14th, 2006 02:04 AM
MJOILNIR
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Id really like to see him return to his old powerset. Being a villian I couldent care less as long as he's not the pussy he has been portrayed as of late.
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Sep 14th, 2006 02:08 AM
Lucid Lui
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He'll still be a good guy at the end of the arc. Tieri's just filling in for Claremont so i don't think he'd make such a big change as to make Juggs a bad guy again.
i'd rather Tieri stayed on the book.
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Sep 14th, 2006 02:08 AM
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quote: People forget that Juggernaut has been the main force, lackey, whatever for Cyttorak, who is a demonic being!"
So I guess Doctor Strange is evil too?
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Sep 14th, 2006 09:19 AM
Estacado
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Just read New Excalibur 11 Juggs isn't back to normal
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Sep 14th, 2006 10:26 AM
marvelprince
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Sweet news. Its not that I don't like Juggs as a good guy, I just think the transition was too easy. I want to know more about his past and have him really try to redeem himself, possibly even fail.
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Sep 14th, 2006 12:15 PM
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IMO hes the most lazzy character ever created, with the exception of horse face Thor. This pretty much illustartrates what i mean :
'instead of an ass who just destroyed things for no reason...'
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Sep 14th, 2006 03:30 PM
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Juggernaut was basically The Hulk minus back-story and evil. Now I prefer him, honestly...
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Sep 14th, 2006 05:04 PM
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...sweet!
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Sep 14th, 2006 05:07 PM
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I'm not gonna lie this has me hooked right now after reading that.
I mean it seems as if we're finally going to get to the core of what Juggernaut was and who he is.
Plus the fact he is refering to Onslaught and saying that there was a reason why Jugernaut was first has me really pondering what is going to happen.
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Sep 14th, 2006 05:17 PM
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^Love the signature.
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Sep 14th, 2006 08:12 PM
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Re: Upcoming Juggernaut arc in New Excalibur...
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Cant Wait
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Sep 14th, 2006 09:38 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
So I guess Doctor Strange is evil too?
I thought the same thing. There's never been a single time that Cyttorak was considered "evil", he's always been neutral and self serving.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by newjak86
I'm not gonna lie this has me hooked right now after reading that.
I mean it seems as if we're finally going to get to the core of what Juggernaut was and who he is.
Plus the fact he is refering to Onslaught and saying that there was a reason why Jugernaut was first has me really pondering what is going to happen.
Yeah, it sounds like he's going to start kicking ass again. Possibly going through a whole issue without crying! Can you believe it?!
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Sep 15th, 2006 04:14 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by long pig
I thought the same thing. There's never been a single time that Cyttorak was considered "evil", he's always been neutral and self serving.
Yeah, it sounds like he's going to start kicking ass again. Possibly going through a whole issue without crying! Can you believe it?!
It a dream come true
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Sep 15th, 2006 04:43 PM
ankur29
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i actually like juggernaut bein good right now , if he changes and returns back to normal power i think he should remain a hero or be an anti hero like venom or black adam i did not like him being a villain and having reasons to being beaten by lesser opponents
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Sep 15th, 2006 09:05 PM
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If Juggernaut returns to full power he should take out someone really big.
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Sep 15th, 2006 09:19 PM
ankur29
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i want him to smack around sasquatch , thier last fight juggernaut was depowered i want to see his strength difference
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