They are not omnipotent. Not omniscience beings (excuse my bad english, i am german) and have never shown signs of omnipresence.
TOAA and Presence was surpassed by the Brothers, as they would never just let their dimensions get fused without appearing. And why didnt they just choosed to eist BEYOND the Brothers? They are omnipotent, shouldnt that be a small feat? NO.
And Living Tribunal is claimed as omniscient, he shall have known that Thanos would get the Heart of the Universe and trumph him and stopped him, which he didnt.
So... No Omnipowers in comics,only really strong realityshaping
I will treat you like you arent the judge, even though you are.
I'll rest in my case.
The-One-Above-All and the Presnece don't actually have any real features, there are some theories, which brings us to the writers and editors.
The Brothers however was supose to represent the staff of Marvel and DC, so they were stated to be supreme.
But the Brothers affection is irrelevant since it's non canon material, Amalgam = non canon, pluss, they're retconned.
But it's like saying if The-One-Above-All didn't exist, and neither would his power've had (the Heart) then you could say that the Living Tribunal is omnipotent, because he can do anything short of opposing The-One-Above-All, so if he isnt there the Living Tribunal could do anything.
If The-One-Above-All had a plan, then he could've made the Living Tribunal follow it ...
Well there is omnipotence at many levels. As I said, the only thing the Living Tribunal cannot do is do something against The-One-Above-All's will, same goes for others.
So, yes omnipotence is illustrated at prime in comics.
Well I was talking about current.
But I'll make it easier on you, if no one above the Living tribunal would exist, then the Living Tribunal would have full control of the Marvel Omniverse, Absolute Power, as you call it. He would be able to do anything.
And we must not forget you name thanos Thanos with HOTU was far beyond anything els, we have ever seen, and it was shown that it was the TOAA's powers now if he absorbed a multiverse ore a universe don't care he was omnipotente and still had restiction on him preformed by TOAA, so yes TOAA is supreme in marvel in any single way. Just not reality warpers, no litterally the GOD in oure religion.
Only according to some people that is for you to decide what you think.
And yes Omnipotente can be on many levels, in comic not in reality, like infinity, there can be different levels of infinity like
1.2.3...... and so on
2.4.6...... and so on
both continue infinite but the one order is higher then the other thus different levels of infinity exist, this is really difficuelt to comprehend for me the first time i heard it
Comicbookresources suck ... Worst forum out there, where fanboyims surpasses omnipotence ect.
How do you define ultimate power?
If you mean a limit, then yes, "infinity + 1" is and will always be a solution.
But then again, nowhere would it be impossible to surpass a limit, in no anime/manga not even in the bible.
But if you see power as authority then the (pre-retcon) Brothers would have the most through all fiction, not just comics.
Since they were to represent the staff of Marvel and DC, so they didn't have the power of just a writer or a editor, but the entire companies.
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