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Star Trek Q Vs Thanos

Thanos wants Q gone.

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Thanos better get an artifact or learn to adjust.

Short of getting a Cosmic Cube/the UN/the IG Thanos' only shot is to trick Q into giving up his powers.

Q is just too powerful for Thanos. Death doesn't even exist for the Q IIRC, they have to be depowered and turned human before they can be killed. And only another Q or a similarly powerful/more powerful being can accomplish that.


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Q turns Thanos into and insect and then steps on him

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q crushes him.


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Q displayed the ability to wipe out entire races by thinking about it. Sciatic in multiple points of time.

Basically classic skyfather level type stuff


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Originally posted by rotiart
Q displayed the ability to wipe out entire races by thinking about it. Sciatic in multiple points of time.

Basically classic skyfather level type stuff

Not to mention that Q thought of changing the Universal Gravitational Constant (IE Universal level reality warping) as a trivial matter.


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The closest comic equivalent for Q is probably Mr. Mxyzptlk

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The closest comic equivalent for Q is probably Mr. Mxyzptlk

I'd say Q is more like a Cube Being. Still too much for Thanos.


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I don't even watch star trek but from what i've heard of Q he's going to dance on thanos's grave.


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I'd say Q is more like a Cube Being. Still too much for Thanos.
I was just speaking in terms of characterization in addition to power level.

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Thanos wants Q gone.
the minute Q starts to converse with thanos begins Q's inevitable defeat.


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Death has no hold over the Q unless they choose it.


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Q displayed the ability to wipe out entire races by thinking about it.

That was a Douwd from the episode called "The Survivors". He killed every member of a species no matter where they were in the univserse by a single thought because one of them killed his human wife.
I don't think he was as powerful as a Q. Q would have resurrected his wife which he couldn't do.

As per this thread, Q wins easily.

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Did Q ever show the ability to put Abstract level beings in incarceration?

In this case Death itself?

I'm only into Season 2 of TNG right now.

He may toy with humans but ideas?


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Re: Re: Star Trek Q Vs Thanos

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the minute Q starts to converse with thanos begins Q's inevitable defeat.


Pretty much.

And Q's restrained by an equivilent of the Prime Directive. He's never killed anyone directly, although indirectly caused some deaths, and that was only for instructional purposes, as all life in Federation territories was threatened by The Borg...

Sisko knocked Q on his ass. What did Q do about it?

Nothing. Didn't even bother toying with him like he does Picard, he simply stopped dealing with him.

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Yeah Thanos wins this if it becomes a mindgame.


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Pretty much.

And Q's restrained by an equivilent of the Prime Directive. He's never killed anyone directly, although indirectly caused some deaths, and that was only for instructional purposes, as all life in Federation territories was threatened by The Borg...

Sisko knocked Q on his ass. What did Q do about it?

Nothing. Didn't even bother toying with him like he does Picard, he simply stopped dealing with him.


Are you trying to say that Sisko is greater than Q? Really?

Anyways, Q is bound by certain rules, but just so happens to break them all the time regardless. He doesn't kill because he really isn't that much of a douche.

You can't compare Star Trek and Marvel directly, since Star Trek doesn't have abstracts. We do know, however, that Q can resurrect the dead (and kill, of course).

The Q, in Star Trek, are the closest thing to omnipotents (Q states himself to be omnipotent, but we know this isn't quite true). For example: they can be depowered by other Q, there are multiple Q, and the series finale of TNG showed that Q's interest in humanity was due to humanity's potential to surpass the Q in the distant future.

Regardless, Q is far and away above Thanos in power. Even if he couldn't kill him, he could always just incapacitate him for eternity or some other equivalent victory.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
doesn't even exist for the Q IIRC, they have to be depowered and turned human before they can be killed. And only another Q or a similarly powerful/more powerful being can accomplish that.


This is all somewhat retconned in Voyager, where the Q civil war shows Q's offing each other left and right with what appear to be normal firearms, but was actually Q super weapons. If Thanos got his hands on one of those suckers...

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This is all somewhat retconned in Voyager, where the Q civil war shows Q's offing each other left and right with what appear to be normal firearms, but was actually Q super weapons. If Thanos got his hands on one of those suckers...


It was stated in Voyager that their fight was far beyond what we could perceive, and so we interpreted it as a Revolutionary War/Civil War era fight with rifles/muskets and the like. They weren't actually using guns, or even weapons of any kind. Was all their own power.

It's basically the same as Galactus in that way.


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It was stated in Voyager that their fight was far beyond what we could perceive, and so we interpreted it as a Revolutionary War/Civil War era fight with rifles/muskets and the like. They weren't actually using guns, or even weapons of any kind. Was all their own power.

It's basically the same as Galactus in that way.


As I recall, one of the crew did use one of the muskets, though.

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